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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And I bet Catelyn couldn't know, and be spared the indignity, because Ned thought no one would believe it unless Catelyn truly hated him.


That makes sense to me.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a bit late to the thread...

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Surprised no one is making an issue out of Jon's oathbreaking.


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But he didn't break his oath. He served the Nights Watch until his death.


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I suppose Bran's role now is to a) tell Jon who he is, and b) tell people how to destroy the White Walkers.

I'm not sure what purpose Sam even serves in the story now. They've let his storyline lag so far behind everything else, he hasn't even gotten through the book 4 material.



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My guess is that Bran will tell Jon the truth about his parents, and will lead the fight against the White Walkers (if he ever learns to fly). But something will go wrong and he will die in the attempt, maybe. Then, Sam will find something in the library that tells everyone how to defeat the White Walkers for good.


Wild hunch, sorry Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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She assumed the 'younger and more beautiful queen' was Margaery, but it could refer to Daenerys - or even someone else, but Daenerys seems the most likely.
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Of COURSE it does. (And I still wish for Tyrion that she marries him.)


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It's always been assumed that valonqar (brother) referred to Tyrion, but what if it's Jaime? Considering Cersei went and did what he killed Aerys to prevent...
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I really want it to be Jaime, there are so many dramatic angles to that: being inescapably the King[Queen]slayer, being the jilted lover, redemption through helping Danaerys take the thrown, etc.. But it will probably be Tyrion, because on GoT, it's never too obvious to be good.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Akasri wrote:
I'm a bit late to the thread...

I'm Murrin wrote:
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Surprised no one is making an issue out of Jon's oathbreaking.


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But he didn't break his oath. He served the Nights Watch until his death.


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I suppose Bran's role now is to a) tell Jon who he is, and b) tell people how to destroy the White Walkers.

I'm not sure what purpose Sam even serves in the story now. They've let his storyline lag so far behind everything else, he hasn't even gotten through the book 4 material.



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My guess is that Bran will tell Jon the truth about his parents, and will lead the fight against the White Walkers (if he ever learns to fly). But something will go wrong and he will die in the attempt, maybe. Then, Sam will find something in the library that tells everyone how to defeat the White Walkers for good.


Wild hunch, sorry Smile


Boy, that would suck.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm a bit late to the thread...
I'm Murrin wrote:
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Surprised no one is making an issue out of Jon's oathbreaking.

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But he didn't break his oath. He served the Nights Watch until his death.

I agree, but no one likes a rules lawyer. The Night's Watch should have a huge issue with him.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If my boss came back from the dead and decided to pick a different career, I probably wouldn't argue with him.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If my boss came back from the dead and decided to pick a different career, I probably wouldn't argue with him.


I'd be too busy freaking out to argue Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm pretty sure that any HR department would side with Jon - "So they were willing to stab you to death to get rid of you, but now that you miraculously have a pulse again, they're saying you can't leave?"

Again, haven't seen the season and I'm guessing it was addressed in some way. Probably. And also aware that Westeros hasn't invented HR yet, which is probably good, because that job would suck.



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Anyway, more random thoughts about the whole Lyanna/Rhaegar debacle.

Did he kidnap her, or was she with him voluntarily? The people who knew Rhaegar maintain that he was a decent guy. If she was with him voluntarily, why didn't she send word to her family? Considering that her father and brother died trying to save her - she couldn't have known Aerys was going to kill them, but she had to have known that they would act and there would be serious consequences.

Ned Stark maintained that only he and Howland Reed know what happened during the rescue attempt. There had to be guards and servants and whatnot who knew Lyanna was pregnant, yet apparently no one ever said 'Hey, what happened to the baby?'. No speculation at all around the subject. Why? Were they all dead? If so, who killed them, and were they killed to cover up what they knew?

I'm probably putting too much thought into this.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty good start to Season 7, and a great cold open.

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I'm particularly enjoying The Hound's story of redemption. I also loved the scene where he was staring into the flames.

It looks like Euron will be the villain we love to hate, now that Ramsay is gone.

Was Jamie standing next to Cersei as the Lord Commander of the Queensgard? Or in some other capacity?

I felt a great deal of dread when Arya met the Lannister soldiers. I hope she gets away from them. I really hoped that, after dealing with the Freys, she would head North and reunite with Jon and Sansa.

Jon should get the news about Bran from Dolorous Edd next week. They should reunite soon.

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Am I the only one watching this season?

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I found this episode to be a bit frustrating.

I'm happy to see Arya turn north, but looks like Jon won't be there when she arrives. Still, we'll see a Sansa/Arya reunion soon, and who knows how that will turn out?

I enjoyed the Arya/Nymeria reunion, and I'm not really surprised to see Nymeria turn away from Arya. But, did she do so because she could never be Arya's pet any longer, or because Arya isn't the same person?

Enjoyed the sea battle, and I don't mind that 2 of the Sand Snakes are gone. Was Yara one of the people hanging from the prow?

Disappointed in Theon. But, it appears that Reek never truly went away.

Why no letter from the Wall to Jon Snow indicating that Bran had turned up?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm watching! Great so far. Nice sea battle.

I like Daenerys's military plan to take Westeros. Unexpected. I like the Alliances that are forming, the details unfolding. This is a moment we've been waiting a long time to see*, and now that it's happening, I like how they are drawing it out with necessary steps that were difficult to foresee, but seem natural in hindsight. It was easier to imagine that Daenerys would simply storm King's Landing and seize Westeros without much resistance. But that wouldn't have made much of a story--a point the writers seemed to have noticed, since they spent a lot of time this episode explaining why that couldn't happen, even having the characters make exactly these points as they debate the topic. I like how the writers are building suspense and conflict, making it hard on Daenerys so that she's not simply invincible. The sea battle helped a lot with that. Just when we think that Cersei has played all her cards she still clings to power and proves to be formidable.

This story can't be as simple as Cersei being defeated and Westeros uniting to fight the Army of the Dead armed with Dragonglass weapons and three dragons (plus a Jon and Daenerys marriage, of course). It can't be that easy and predictable.

*[Edit: the opening sequence with the map showing only one continent really drives this point home: all the characters are in one "world" now. The whole story is in Westeros from now on. Wow.]
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