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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 10:09 pm    Post subject: Interferring in the Election Reply with quote

Okay; is there anyone here in the Tank over the age of 6 and with an IQ greater than 50 who believes that no major country ever interferes in another countries elections and politics?


Come on, any?
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They all interfere. Of course major governments would prefer that certain people not run other countries.
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, we have absolutely done so in the past, much more than we've engaged in militarily-backed regime change. I have insufficient knowledge to talk about present tense.

What is different now is that algorithm-driven social media is an invention ideally suited for targeted propaganda manipulations, just as the cell phone was a wet dream for ubiquitous surveillance. The collective lack of appreciation of the implications of these near-universally-accepted inventions doesn't help.
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Savor Dam wrote:
Yes, we have absolutely done so in the past, much more than we've engaged in militarily-backed regime change. I have insufficient knowledge to talk about present tense.

What is different now is that algorithm-driven social media is an invention ideally suited for targeted propaganda manipulations, just as the cell phone was a wet dream for ubiquitous surveillance. The collective lack of appreciation of the implications of these near-universally-accepted inventions doesn't help.


How about....everyone doing what they are supposed to do prior to pulling the handle and doing their due diligence and researching the candidate instead of picking the talking head.
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahaha, yeah right...might as well expect politicians to tell the truth...

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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russia has a long way to go to catch up to the United States given the number of elections we have influenced over the decades. Our history even goes so far as to actively support coups when leaders with whom we disagree are chosen--just ask Mohammad Mosaddegh, former Prime Minister of Iran in the early 1950s.

I am not saying Russia actually did interfere in our 2016 election but if they did we certainly deserved it.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The recent leak of documents to The Intercept about Russian attempts to hack voting systems in the United States came from Reality Leigh Winner, a contractor with Pluribus Inernational, an NSA subcontractor. She copied the documents, printed them, carried them out of her secure location, then sent them to The Intercept. Ms. Winner's social media profile indicates that she is avidly anti-Trump.

It is interesting to see some on The Left (check the DN! transcript) bending over backwards to both praise Ms. Winner for her leak yet also stating that she must be charged with a crime because they think "the public's right to know" outweighs keeping classified information classified. These are the same people who excoriated Julian Assange when WikiLeaks was releasing documents harmful to Hillary Clinton--they wanted him silenced.

Anyway, for someone working in intelligence Ms. Winner wasn't very intelligent. She printed the documents on a color printer...which uses very small tracking dots which identify the exact printer used as well as exactly when the document was printed. She also used a non-secure e-mail account to communicate with The Intercept before turning over the documents--it took the FBI less than a week to track her down.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoops, the Russians never hacked the DNC, it was actually a leak made to look like the Russians.

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it was a " Russian inside the DNC " hack job..... Razz
Data transfer at 22 MB's is more than a net transfer.. Shocked
Sounds like a HD to a memory stick transfer.
Which means that the "Hacker" was at a terminal on the DNC network
or directly accessing the server. Evil or Very Mad

Lets blame Bernie!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As soon as more media sources learn of this analysis it can enter the general public's pool of information and we can finally put Russiagate behind us and move on to real topics.

Here is the analysis from The Forensicator.

Perhaps we should also revisit why that DNC staffer was killed. It wasn't a robbery and technically the case is still open.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.salon.com/2017/08/15/what-if-the-dnc-russian-hack-was-really-a-leak-after-all-a-new-report-raises-questions-media-and-democrats-would-rather-ignore/
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After a little consideration, this seemed like the perfect thread for this since it qualifies as "interfering with an election" (or at least an election/nomination process).

Donna Brazile, former chair of the DNC itself, has written a new book titled, "Hacks: The Inside Story of the Break-Ins and Breakdowns That Put Donald Trump in the White House". In the book, she details how the Hillary For America campaign and the Hillary Victory Fund, a fundraising group, managed to gain complete control of the Party and the nomination process. Long story short: the Obama campaign left the DNC virtually broke so the Hillary campaign furnished the cash in exchange for anointing Hillary. To get around campaign contribution limits they had people contribute to State organizations who then funneled the money to the national organization.

The crux of it may be found in this brief passage, excerpted from the book:


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When I got back from a vacation in Martha's Vineyard, I at last found the document that described it all: the Joint Fund-Raising Agreement between the DNC, the Hillary Victory Fund, and Hillary for America.

The agreement--signed by Amy Dacey, the former CEO of the DNC, and Robby Mook with a copy to Marc Elias--specified that in exchange for raising money and investing in the DNC, Hillary would control the party's finances, strategy, and all the money raised. Her campaign had the right of refusal of who would be the party communications director, and it would make final decisions on all the other staff. The DNC also was required to consult with the campaign about all other staffing, budgeting, data, analytics, and mailings.

I had been wondering why it was that I couldn't write a press release without passing it by Brooklyn. Well, here was the answer.


In other words, Hillary *bought* her nomination rather than earning it.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if the outcome would have been different if Hillary hadn't been the DNC nominee?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is one hell of a bombshell. This isn't Republican conspiracy theories. This comes straight from the former chair of the DNC.

It is unbelievable that the person who stole the Dem nomination from Bernie is the one of the loudest voices in the "Russians hacked our democracy" charge. Hillary obviously doesn't give a damn about democracy. She screwed over her own party, her own voters.

No, Av, Bernie could not have beaten Trump.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Network newscasts didn't mention the Brazile bombshell.

Doesn't surprise me one bit.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wonder if the outcome would have been different if Hillary hadn't been the DNC nominee?

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I can assure you that there were a majority of rock solid democrats
that would have voted for Trump. They did not like any form what
Bernie Sanders took.
I'm not pulling your leg on this. It has happen before.
I have seen TV political adverts that was pulling for Nixon in the 72 elections.
They were paid for "Democrats for Nixon"
No way they would support George McGovern. He was the Bernie Sanders of his time.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, you're probably right.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Network newscasts didn't mention the Brazile bombshell.

Doesn't surprise me one bit.


The agenda/talking points must be pushed at all cost.

If you spent a lot of money on something--a new car, perhaps--and it turned out to be a lemon you would want to know What Happened, yourself. She expected to win as a payout for all the money she put in to buying her nomination.

She lost because she called half of the United States "a bucket of deplorables".

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is unbelievable that the person who stole the Dem nomination from Bernie is the one of the loudest voices in the "Russians hacked our democracy" charge.


I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree here. Not unbelievable at all. She has the integrity of a third strike inmate. Plus typical Dem misdirection technique- works best on children and dumbasses.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I should have said "outrageous" or "ironic." It's entirely believable.
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