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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:42 pm    Post subject: and so how is this the "Boy Scouts" Reply with quote

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/boy-scouts-girls-allowed-to-join-cub-scouts-next-year/

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NEW YORK -- In its latest momentous policy shift, the Boy Scouts of America will admit girls into the Cub Scouts starting next year and establish a new program for older girls based on the Boy Scout curriculum that enables them to aspire to the coveted Eagle Scout rank.

Founded in 1910 and long considered a bastion of tradition, the Boy Scouts have undergone major changes in the past five years, agreeing to accept openly gay youth members and adult volunteers, as well as transgender boys.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure Baden-Powell would agree, but as an adult Scouter with a Wood Badge, I think the principles and practices of Scouting apply well enough to both genders. Whether a combined program (as has existed for a while for Venturing and is now planned for Cubbing) or separate program (as is proposed for the core age group) will work best is a question best answered empirically.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an organization, the Boy Scouts of America is a relic of the past which is desperately trying to stay alive and keep up with the times. It probably has 10 to 15 years of life left before it finally dies.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are entitled to your opinion, Director, but my experience (having seen the arc of first-graders entering the program as Tiger Cubs and emerging as Eagle Scouts by the time the graduate from high school), I tend to disagree. Not all young men in the program do so well, and certainly there are other paths to developing personal self-sufficiency, character, and leadership, but Scouting ought not be dismissed as no longer relevant.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seem to recall that they're accepting atheists too these days. (What about the Girl Guides? weren't they supposed to be an equivalent?)

Doesn't bother me personally, but yes, sounds like a re-brand should be in the offing...just call it "Scouts."

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You are entitled to your opinion, Director, but my experience (having seen the arc of first-graders entering the program as Tiger Cubs and emerging as Eagle Scouts by the time the graduate from high school), I tend to disagree. Not all young men in the program do so well, and certainly there are other paths to developing personal self-sufficiency, character, and leadership, but Scouting ought not be dismissed as no longer relevant.


True--I suppose I probably shouldn't disparage them that harshly. I have almost completely ignored them for my entire life, though--I never saw the point in it.
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