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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On Trump talking up outcomes of the NK Summit, a very clever friend noted the rhetoric sounds a lot like .. the tale of The Emperors New Clothes 😏

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In the great city in which he lived it was always very merry; every day came many strangers; one day two rogues came: they gave themselves out as weavers, and declared they could weave the finest stuff any one could imagine. Not only were their colors and patterns, they said, uncommonly beautiful, but the clothes made of the stuff possessed the wonderful quality that they became invisible to any one who was unfit for the office he held, or was incorrigibly stupid

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugh 😑 🤷‍♀️ Wos???? Can you fix this one too? Its a cracker 😏😛😎
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He already fixed it but I fixed the original post citing the image. The opening tag was accidentally misspelled as "ing" rather than "img". That is the only circumstance under which I will ever actually edit someone's post--I do not engage in that behavior.

Truthfully, there is no point in trying to have a Space Force when there is no Moon Base.


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If it works like that how do you prevent ANYONE from making up crap just to dump 💩 shit allegations on political opponents?

Thats all kinds of fucked up IF that is how it works there. How to bogus allegations not consolidate stigmas, confusion and totally fuck any semblance of due process, truth discovery, in fact your entire judicial system .. kind of puts the entire process under a cloud of disrepute.


I agree--it is fucked up. That being said, that is the system we have at this time--person A may accuse or allege person B of having done or said something, even to the point of bringing it to a court, and person B has to expend the effort clearing their name both in that court as well as the Court of Public Opinion. The damage person A seeks to inflict is not actual criminal or civil penalty but Public Opinion damage. Recent case: Millie Bobbie Brown, the young actress who plays Eleven on Stranger Things, had to abandon her Twitter profile (or was it Instagram? one of those social media platforms) because someone falsely accused her of being racist against Muslims (of course, "Muslim" is not a race, but that is another topic altogether) and she received a lot of hate speech attacks. Damage done and mission accomplished. without needing a lawyer in court.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, the joys of social media. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He already fixed it but I fixed the original post citing the image. The opening tag was accidentally misspelled as "ing" rather than "img". That is the only circumstance under which I will ever actually edit someone's post--I do not engage in that behavior.


Thank you Hashi .. my bad ... I should have checked that 🙄
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Truthfully, there is no point in trying to have a Space Force when there is no Moon Base.
And a thousand other reasons, no need, no threat, no advantage, great cost, questionable return etc .. etc ... etc.

I mean you can do pretty much everything remotely now .. you have satellites like everyone else.

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[colour] Damage done and mission accomplished. without needing a lawyer in court.
So no slander or libel suits in the US? I mean you can recoup costs in losses resulting from false allegations and misinformation. There should be protections for disseminating misinformation.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slander and libel suits do exist but I am uncertain how likely pursuing such an option in court would far, especially if done over social media. That makes me ask another question: is a defamatory text or tween slander (speech) or libel (print)? *shrug*
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh, quick change of topic...this space force thing...doesn't the Outer Space Treaty forbid the militarisation of space?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it does Av .. it absolutely does. 😎
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No it doesn't. It prevents signatories from placing WMDs in space, and from performing military exercises on the moon or other celestial body.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suppose country A actually manages to build a Moon Base and weaponizes it. There isn't anything anyone can do about it without sending their own military forces to the Moon. thus giving country A a definitive advantage in that area. That treaty sounds lovely on paper but in practice a weaponized base would exist and everyone else would just have to get over it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually a picture from the secret facility where our space force is being built has now been leaked. (see below) Apparently only 12 will be built.


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Suppose country A actually manages to build a Moon Base and weaponizes it. There isn't anything anyone can do about it without sending their own military forces to the Moon. thus giving country A a definitive advantage in that area. That treaty sounds lovely on paper but in practice a weaponized base would exist and everyone else would just have to get over it.
Absolutely.

I actually think this is a great thing. It's a matter of time until that branch of service is necessary.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I actually think this is a great thing. It's a matter of time until that branch of service is necessary.


Especially since the cutting edge of aeronautics these days is hypersonic planes--to travel at the speeds they wish to attain they will be flying in very low Earth orbit, which is essentially "space". The first country to attain a workable hypersonic will be able to transport troops halfway around the planet in 5 or 6 hours...or deploy a weapons payload.

If you are building a stationary platform in space--probably easier to attain this goal than an actual Moon Base--then existing rail gun technology will be sufficient to defend it. You cannot afford for a metal spike to go through your spacecraft at 2 km/sec--you won't survive the hull breaches and extensive ship damage.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No it doesn't. It prevents signatories from placing WMDs in space, and from performing military exercises on the moon or other celestial body.

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the Moon and other celestial bodies shall be used exclusively for peaceful purposes;


Not ... Space FORCE activities. Space PEACE activities 😏😎
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