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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

God I am a slow reader.

Halfway through Chaos and Order. Just past the part where Angus gave Davies his access codes. I love that scene.

Savoring every page. What an amazing book.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha .. well youre in good company .. I am also a slow reader. But youre way ahead of the group reread Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, that will overtake him soon enough. Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, I am a slow reader. 2 years???

Almost done with Chaos and Order!!! Haha.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your daughter is probably reading it aloud to you by this point.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wayfriend wrote:
Your daughter is probably reading it aloud to you by this point.


LOL

Shes a smart cookie ... the force is strong with this one Wink. ... and yet I hope she never reads the Gap series .. maybe as an adult 🤔
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Razz Razz Razz

I'm making ground! A quarter of the way through THIS DAY ALL GODS DIE (my favorite book title ever).

By the way, has there ever been a topic (and I'm sure there has) on what I feel like is the biggest (or at least most annoying) plot hole of the Gap? The fact that they are (1) obsessed about getting the immunity drug out and into the public for as many people to access as possible through their broadcast but also (2) obsessed about the fact that if one Amnion warship (Calm Horizons) finds out about the immunity drug (through Morn's blood or their broadcast) that it's all over, because the Amnion would be able to counter-act it.

WON'T THE AMNION FIND OUT ABOUT THE IMMUNITY DRUG AT SOME POINT??? Like, as soon as they capture SOMEONE with the drug in their system? Like, really soon? I wouldn't take long! They aren't stupid! Why all the obsession about making sure Calm Horizons won't find out???

Was this ever addressed in the book? Or is it just a huge ass plot hole?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Razz Razz Razz

I'm making ground! A quarter of the way through THIS DAY ALL GODS DIE (my favorite book title ever).

By the way, has there ever been a topic (and I'm sure there has) on what I feel like is the biggest (or at least most annoying) plot hole of the Gap? The fact that they are (1) obsessed about getting the immunity drug out and into the public for as many people to access as possible through their broadcast but also (2) obsessed about the fact that if one Amnion warship (Calm Horizons) finds out about the immunity drug (through Morn's blood or their broadcast) that it's all over, because the Amnion would be able to counter-act it.

WON'T THE AMNION FIND OUT ABOUT THE IMMUNITY DRUG AT SOME POINT??? Like, as soon as they capture SOMEONE with the drug in their system? Like, really soon? I wouldn't take long! They aren't stupid! Why all the obsession about making sure Calm Horizons won't find out???

Was this ever addressed in the book? Or is it just a huge ass plot hole?

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wow!!! I totally didn't catch that!!! I may have to listen to The Gap Cycle when i'm finished with jack reacher!!!!! i'll keep you posted regarding this gaping plot hole, J!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha. But seriously this huge plot hole has always really bothered me. It's a paradox. They can't be obsessed with trying to get the immunity drug out to as MANY humans as possible while at the same time be obsessed with stopping ONE Amnion from learning about the immunity drug. If every single human knows about it, very quickly the Amnion will find out too! They just have to capture one idiot with the drug in their system.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They did. They took blood samples from both Nick (FK) and Morn (ADAHGA) while they had the drug in their systems. Morn's sample probably got destroyed with Billingate, but Nick's should be at Enablement.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know, so why are they so obsessed then with stopping Calm Horizons to prevent them from getting access to the drug?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"It's not an organic immunity. It's more like a poison - or a binder. It ties up mutagens until they're inert. Then they get flushed out - along with the drug. The immunity is effective for about four hours.

I'm not going to take it until after they sample my blood. That way they won't learn anything. The drug won't be in my system yet."


That's from FK. Trying to find the right scene from ADAHGA.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"It's not an organic immunity. It's more like a poison - or a binder. It ties up mutagens until they're inert. Then they get flushed out - along with the drug. The immunity is effective for about four hours.

I'm not going to take it until after they sample my blood. That way they won't learn anything. The drug won't be in my system yet."


That's from FK. Trying to find the right scene from ADAHGA.


Sorus is correct. The Amnion never got any of his blood when the immunity drug was in his system.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

K, but that still doesn't solve my plot hole.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there's an implied idea that they can't build from a "formula". They need the drug physically in order to analyze and replicate it.

However, there is also the fact that they already have a form of the drug which can postpone transformation. I think we can be pretty sure that they already know how to block it permanently. However, what they don't want is that knowledge to become common among the humans, otherwise they'll be out of business.
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