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[Syl] · Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 1:10 pm Post subject: Search

Anyone else having problems with it?
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Warmark · Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 1:12 pm Post subject:

Yes, i get no criteria match for anything.
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kevinswatch · Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I just noticed. Hopefully it's a temporary thing.-jay

drew · Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject:

I tried searching for "Covenant" even that turned up nothing!!
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Avatar · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 3:45 am Post subject:

I always have problems with it. Very Happy

Been working on the whole though but not today/

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Vain · Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:43 am Post subject:

I dunno how this thing works Smile

Apparently I can re-index the thing but will need to look into that. Does anybody use search? Wink

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Avatar · Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 3:42 am Post subject:

Lots of people use it. Very Happy

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drew · Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject:

I use it all the time.

I want to see if people are talking about me
Embarassed

no one ever is
Sad

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Angoid · Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject:

Sounds like a "Stopwords" problem.

What happens is that common words are removed automatically by the search routine, with the result that there is nothing left to match.

It's a real pain; I raised this once on another forum (the Business Objects Board) and that's what they told me.

What's annoying is that you put in, for example, "Covenant tax law" and "Covenant" is removed because it's so common on this forum, leaving you with "Tax Law" which could produce lots of irrelevant hits - this is the other problem with stopwords.

One of the admins there said he was going to rewrite the SQL to make it more efficient.....
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balon! · Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject:

Any way to include quotation marks to make the engine search for exactally "Covenent Tax Law"?
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I'm Murrin · Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 11:05 pm Post subject:

It's not that the search isn't looking for common words, Angoid--it's that the search isn't looking for any words. It comes up with no results no matter what you put in.

(Balon--there's a "Search for all terms" option just below the search line.)
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Angoid · Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:05 pm Post subject:

Murrin - my experience at the Business Objects Board was that the words on the Stoplist are removed before being passed to the search routine, with the result that those words are not being searched for at all. That's what gives the effect you're seeing.

I don't know whether the stoplist is automatically generated (for example, if more than a certain percentage of posts contain the word then it's a stopword) or whether it is built by the admins.

Balon - I don't think wrapping the words up in quotes helps - any stopwords will still be removed.

Take a look here for where it was discussed at BOB.
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I'm Murrin · Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:31 pm Post subject:

Once again, I can't see how that would cause the search to reject every word in the english language. No matter what is put into the search line, it will not give results.
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Relayer · Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject:

Still not working... Anyone have ideas how to fix this?
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Avatar · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:48 am Post subject:

Jay tried to do a rebuild, but he says it didn't work. We'll get there. Very Happy

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Relayer · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:40 am Post subject:

Thanks Av (and Jay).
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Relayer · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject:

Search works again!! Woo-hoo!!
Thanks guys.
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Avatar · Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:11 am Post subject:

Say, admins, is the Build still ongoing? Not everything seems to get searched yet...

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Menolly · Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:03 am Post subject:

Tell me about it.

Try doing a search for either "Chastus" or "Nephirthos" in Gravin Threndor and you don't get much that's not really recent...

Trust me...I tried. It was no fun paging through both 1.0 and 2.0 threads instead.
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Vain · Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:49 am Post subject:

Sheez !! Rebuilding takes about 5 to 6 hours to rebuild about 20 000 posts.....there's about 300 000 posts to go so it's going to be a slightly slow process to get them all I fear but we'll get it done faster than jay reads.
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