The "New" Giants

TheWormoftheWorld'sEnd · Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 11:41 pm Post subject: The "New" Giants

It's been mentioned before that the Giants in FR are somehow different from previous Giants - less endearing, perhaps a bit more barbaric or simply with more blunt edges to their personalities than usual.

I don't think there is anything in the story itself to explain this change, nothing in recent Giantish history to account for it.

One thing has changed, however, and that is the sense of universal peril that suffuses the story. The end is drawing nigh, and I would give the Land's Earth, at best, two months, as they reckon time, to "live."

This kind of "fatal" story is simply not the right context for the endearing Giants of yore.
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rdhopeca · Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 11:48 pm Post subject:

Franky what I find missing from them are two things: their sense of joy, and their sense of humor. Perhaps that is related to part of your point about the universal end, but you know, things were just as bleak in TOT and WGW and the Giants then had verve and humor and joy.
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Vraith · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 12:03 am Post subject:

I think we'll see those things [if we don't I'll be sad]...we've barely met these ones yet...and remember that they have had a few centuries of being unwelcome in the Land, and that these particular ones have had precious little experience of joy lately. They'll come back.
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High Lord Tolkien · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 1:34 am Post subject:

These are a different "type" of Giants.
They are not an official Search of mostly sailors probably hand picked for being the very best and given the responsibility to save the world.
They are all warriors (like the First and she wasn't all happy and lovey dovey either) hastily gathered together.
But it's a tight group though, they care about each other.
And with one of them being a murderous mad-giant hell bent on killing Linden (bless his heart) they don't have a lot to be joyful about.
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Demondime-a-dozen-spawn · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 1:51 am Post subject:

Plus, they've all just subjected themselves to a camoraa, of course they're going to be a little reserved and subdued.

Also, we do not yet know how they will emerge from their encounter with the Giantish dead.

I do hope they bounce back from their somewhat dour aspect. If they don't I'll be soul-crushed.
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hearthrall antonicus · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 2:55 am Post subject:

After being stuck on a boat, chasing around a mad giant, probably getting kicked, punched and slapped around by aforementioned mad giant for , like months, if I were o one the Swordmainnor I wouldnt be joyful like the giants of old just yet.......
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TheWormoftheWorld'sEnd · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 3:02 am Post subject:

Seareach · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 3:15 am Post subject:

danlo · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 6:07 pm Post subject:

Has it been settled that Longwrath really is intent on Linden, or do the rumors still hold that he may have mistaken her power for Joan?

sweetbread · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 7:12 pm Post subject:

wayfriend · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject:

I think the new Giants don't measure up to the old simply because Donaldson didn't write them as well.

There is certainly nothing expository about any of them except Rime Coldspray and Longwrath. And there's not much of that.

How many of the giants can you name without looking?
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Rime Coldspray (Ironhand)
Frostheart Grueburn
Onyx Stonemage
Stormpast Galesend
Halewhole Bluntfist
Cirrus Kindwind (lost her arm)
Scend Wavegift (slain by Longwrath)
Moire Squireset (slain by skurj)
??? Cabledarm
??? Latebirth
And Exalt Widenedworld, aka Lostson Longwrath

That's how forgettable they are.
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Vraith · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 10:19 pm Post subject:

I don't know, peeps...Except for S.F., it took a while to really appreciate the various Giants...we've barely been introduced to these ones yet. And the circumstances have changed...not to mention if these were just like the others somebody would be sure to start a thread on "Every Giant is the same Giant."
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the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.

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wayfriend · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 10:40 pm Post subject:

Vraith · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 11:12 pm Post subject:

TheWormoftheWorld'sEnd · Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 2:27 am Post subject:

Ur Dead · Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 3:30 am Post subject:

As far as Longwrath goes..

When did he set out to look for Linden?
How much time did it take for the group to sail and enter the Land?
How long "in days" has Linden been in the Land versus Joan?

There is a possible point where he is searching for Joan and by the time he entered the Land he tuned in on Linden because she weild not only the Wild Magic but also a lot of Earthpower. She's a beacon compared to Joan, whom may be hidden and obsured.

I am finding the Swordmadien fairly refreshing. Seems the women are acting as a unit. And maybe the women are more serious than their male counterparts.

Honnigrave wasn't so jovial either in the second Chronicles.
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