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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think I dislike any characters in this book that have has a view point of their own... the reason? Because one you understand someone, or something, understand why they do what they do, it is very hard to 'hate' them.

I certainly hate Theon, in the end, I felt sorry for him.

One again, this is a classic example of amazing character writing. The characters in these books are very grey, and very real.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't think I dislike any characters in this book that have has a view point of their own... the reason? Because one you understand someone, or something, understand why they do what they do, it is very hard to 'hate' them.

I certainly hate Theon, in the end, I felt sorry for him.

One again, this is a classic example of amazing character writing. The characters in these books are very grey, and very real.


::shrug::

I never really warmed up to Sansa, although she got a little better by the end of Storm of Swords. She just always came off as whiny and unable to do anything for herself, in total contrast to Arya. Not that I liked the way Joffrey treated her, but she definitely needs to grow a spine. Hopefully "Feast" will show some signs of maturity in her.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neither did I 'warm up' to Sansa. But I understand her now... she's annoying, even characters you understand can be annoying... but I don't "hate" her.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay...its freakin four twenty three in the morning and my eyes will not focus!

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WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT THAT KILLED RENLY!!!!
Eeek

ya gotta love catelyn after that scene, gettin the knight girl outa there lickty split! even if she was a b!tch to jon.

i'm only going to bed now because my eyes are crossed and the damn progressive lenses aren't helping at this point.

*massive yawn*


hard to put down this little soap opera!! Big Grin


one more thing. if martin kills arya, i will hunt the bastard down. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You think that's bad!? Don't read! Spoiler:
The nasties get progressively nastier as the series goes on...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warmark wrote:
Just finished this, Loved it. Razz

Tyrion - i am begininng to like this little Imp.
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Only complaint is that the Victory as Kings Landing seemed a little cheap, suddenly Tywin just appears Confused


Spoiler:
I might add that it was said his army was marching in an unexpected direction. Given that he was moving away from Robb, one might have thought he was heading off to deal with Stannis. Having said that, it still surprised me.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just looked at this thread and realized I read Storm of Swords from February 16 to February 23. I do remember making a few all-nighters, back then. *sigh* Don't think I'll ever find a more engrossing book.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a quetion and I can't spoiler it because I'm on my cell.

Is the boy, Gendry, who is with Arya in Harrenhall Roberts bastard that Ned went to see? I can't find where I got that and I can't find any reference to it in the book.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that would be the one. He's described the same way, and he has the bull helmet which he showed Ned in aGoT.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loremaster wrote:
Warmark wrote:
Just finished this, Loved it. Razz

Tyrion - i am begininng to like this little Imp.
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Only complaint is that the Victory as Kings Landing seemed a little cheap, suddenly Tywin just appears Confused


Spoiler:
I might add that it was said his army was marching in an unexpected direction. Given that he was moving away from Robb, one might have thought he was heading off to deal with Stannis. Having said that, it still surprised me.


I noticed that line on a re-read, made more sense this time round.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re-reading, and just noticed a nice little line in this book between Tyrion and Bronn: Tyrion is being hounded by Lady Tanda who want him to marry Lollys. Tyrion says to Bronn, "Perhaps you should eat the goose and marry the maid". Irony is: He does. Bronn is married to Lollys by aFfC, though it isn't Tyrion's doing.

It's always fun spotting these little things that Martin puts in. There are a lot of sly references to what is going to happen later in the story.


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Warmark wrote:
Just finished this, Loved it. Razz

Tyrion - i am begininng to like this little Imp.
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Only complaint is that the Victory as Kings Landing seemed a little cheap, suddenly Tywin just appears Confused


Spoiler:
I might add that it was said his army was marching in an unexpected direction. Given that he was moving away from Robb, one might have thought he was heading off to deal with Stannis. Having said that, it still surprised me.

He did exactly what Tyrion said would happen. Tyrion had a conversation with Cersei where he said if Renly attacked, Tywin's army could reach King's Landing and smash them before they ever got near taking the city. When King's Landing came under assault, Tyrion was proved right by Tywin's arrival.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Littlefinger just referred to Horas and Hobber as Horror and Slobber - nicknames that Jeyne Pool invented when joking with Sansa. I think it's the first time I've seen someone else use the nicknames. And Littlefinger was the one who said he would find a place for Jeyne when Cersei wanted her seperated from Sansa after Ned's arrest.

The case for Jeyne being the girl who replaces Arya later in the series (sent north to marry the Bastard of Bolton) is a strong one, I think. I have to wonder what Petyr did with her for those few months he had her. And I wonder if the (probable) Reek/Ramsey/Theon storyline in Dance with Dragons will reveal the answer.

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An alternative answer to the "one word" Brienne gets out when Catelyn tries to hang her: Stannis. Catelyn made a promise to Brienne in aCoK that she would not stand between Brienne and her revenge for Renly.

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