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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wayfriend wrote:
No, where the movie went into stupidville was, having positioned Faramir as opposed to Frodo thusly, they had to find a way to get out of it somehow, before Frodo ended up in Minas Tirith. So we get the whole thing with Frodo and the Ringwraith in Osgiliath. Now, that was bad!

Thank you! I thought it was just me.

Frodo: "Hello, here's the ring, and if you can't guess where I'm taking it, then you've got to be the stupidest thing in Middle-earth."

Nazgul: "Thanks, I'll be sure to put that last part in the memo."

*Nazgul forgets to forward memo* <-- because that is the only way I'd believe Sauron didn't figure it out...

Have to agree with Lucimay about Faramir. He was my absolute favorite character in the book, and I hate what they did with him in the movie. The whole irony is that he's supposed to be ultimately stronger than Boromir, and if he'd been allowed to go in Boromir's place... my, but wouldn't that have turned out differently? Movie Faramir... he's like a shorter Boromir, and it takes him just as long to come to his senses. It's a wonder something didn't shoot him full of arrows just to highlight the parallels. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lucimay wrote:
Wayfriend wrote:
Actually, Faramir's changes did serve the story.
didn't
I bow to the power of your point.

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I'd have to agree with Wayfriend here, also i belive the reason for Frodo going to Osgiliath was because of the delaying of him meeting Shelob.
Well, that. Plus we get to see Osgiliath, which is cool. But Frodo also went to Osgiliath because if Faramir covets the Ring and desires to please his father, then, well, that's what he'd do.

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some hostility between the pair at first but that subsides. in the film it doesn't.
Again: in a movie, there isn't time to dither back and forth.

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*Nazgul forgets to forward memo* <-- because that is the only way I'd believe Sauron didn't figure it out...
My thoughts precisely. But that's only half.

The other half if the debacle of Osgiliath is, Faramir has a change of heart for apparently no conceible reason. He utters "I think at last we understand one another, Frodo Baggins." - but what the heck does he suddenly learn about Frodo by watching him flirt with a Nazgul?

In the years since, I've developed a theory about what the scriptwriters might have intended here, but failed to execute on. Theory: Faramir witnesses Frodo lose his reason and succomb to the pull of the Ring. He imagines his Father going that route, and what that would lead to. He realizes that Frodo is right, no one should try to use the Ring, it should be destroyed. He realizes that Frodo sacrifices himself in the process. He now agrees with Frodo's position - he now thinks that they "understand one another".

Too bad it sucked.

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All 3 movies, except for a few select scenes, sucked ass.
I feel bad for the fun your missing out on, HLT. It's only 5% suck ass, tops.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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High Lord Tolkien wrote:
All 3 movies, except for a few select scenes, sucked ass.
I feel bad for the fun your missing out on, HLT. It's only 5% suck ass, tops.


No, the casting was awesome and the scenery is outstanding but the unnessesary changes in the story, like Faramir for instance, were just too painful for me to watch.
And I understand that cuts and changes had to be made but too many of the changes were just dumb.

And why was Frodo constipated the whole movie?
Was that another power of the Ring that no one mentioned?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wayfriend wrote:
Lucimay wrote:
Wayfriend wrote:
Actually, Faramir's changes did serve the story.
didn't
I bow to the power of your point.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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some hostility between the pair at first but that subsides. in the film it doesn't.
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Again: in a movie, there isn't time to dither back and forth.


agreed, but i think it could have been done better. at least keep the original dialogue.

the only other thing that grated for me was the seeming invincibility of Legolas and Gimli. they could have fought all the battles by themselves.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No, the casting was awesome and the scenery is outstanding but the unnessesary changes in the story, like Faramir for instance, were just too painful for me to watch.
And I understand that cuts and changes had to be made but too many of the changes were just dumb.


LOL

Personally, I'm a purist when it comes to things like this, but I must agree with WayFriend that it onlly sucked 5%. Maybe 10%.

I don't think that the cuts and changes, annoying though some of them were, detracted from the story as a movie. *shrug*

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frodo racing towards the ford with the ringing of bells from his horse's harness.

Also, when I found out that 'white horses' is a poetic way of describing the froth on top of waves, it did change the way I think about the events on the river Loudwater and the washing away of the black riders.
Almost as if the Elves had rode to the rescue.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was a great scene.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because of that scene, isn't it obvious that Frodo is the Lord of the Rings!
After all, it is Frodo that has the One Ring not Sauron, or anyone else.

I've yet to meet someone who would agree with this.
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