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 Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:07 am Post subject: The best moment in the Last Chrons |
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I would say Linden unmasking the villians at the Earthblood. It's in my top 10 actual moments from any of the Chrons.
The reaction when TC lets the elder handle the white gold in the first Chron would be another... just something about it.... |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:59 am Post subject: Re: The best moment in the Last Chrons |
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| DWOLF wrote: | | I would say Linden unmasking the villians at the Earthblood. It's in my top 10 actual moments from any of the Chrons. |
I agree. "Show me the truth!" ranks right up there with "Nom."
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Yep, that was a moment to remember. Not perhaps the "best" bit, but the most unexpected was when Roger killed the Harrow. Sucker!! (I think that's what he said, anyway).
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Iolanthe wrote: | | Yep, that was a moment to remember. Not perhaps the "best" bit, but the most unexpected was when Roger killed the Harrow. Sucker!! (I think that's what he said, anyway). |
Agree again.
Liand's death was the most shocking death in the entire Chronicles.
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Resurrecting Covenant has got to be right up there.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Zarathustra wrote: | | Resurrecting Covenant has got to be right up there. |
Agree, cuz it was both a fulfillment of all the lead up AND was full of unexpected implications.
I have a thing for a couple with Stave, though...even if somewhat less "potent" than the suggestions....
The "IF" thing.
But also, and this IS potent, EVERYONE should love it:
"I am Haruchai/I do what I must/I will redefine power for you" thing.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Zarathustra wrote: | | Resurrecting Covenant has got to be right up there. |
You had to see that coming though.
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| iQuestor wrote: | | "I will strike a blow as to alter your conception of power..." |
Yea, that's the exact quote of one I was talking about. didn't have the book handy, but it should be on everyone's list...and not just for LC's.
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Stave's 'report' to the Masters at the end of TROTE when he declares his support for Linden despite his misgivings and in the face of the open condemnation of his Haruchai bretheren. A classic peice of Haruchai intransigence and disregard for cosequence to the self in the face of what is known to be right. (question; why did the legendary Haruchai groupthink not immediately bring them all to the exact conclusion that made Stave make the decision he did at this point - their not having been present at the 'HorseRite' does not explain this since their collective experience pool should have made up for this deficit. Was Stave already in some way dissociating from the Haruchai collective).
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| I think the battle with the croyle in AATE has been my favorite part so far. That into the SWMNBN chase was pretty action packed. AATE was an incredible book. People who said they didn't like it or it was boring complete me baffle me. |
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I'm probably the sole soul on this board who fangirls the band of badass women wielding BFSs and kicking various types of arse or tearing out wormhearts, but here goes...
-The last Covenant chapters of AATE. The haunting desolation, Ragnarökkr-ish atmosphere, Covenant's broodings...brilliant.
-SWMNBN and the sacrificing of Elena
-Kevin Landwaster's redemption in Andelain
-The revelation that the fake Cov was actually Roger
-The Viles messing with Linden's perception (or however it went, should read FR again) |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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- Linden in Garroting Deep eating stew with the Madoubt (there is no spoon)
- Linden almost being cleaved in half in Salva Gildenbourne (Tom Beringer in Platoon)
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Frostheart wrote: |
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Yes! The first time through, I knew fake Cov wasn't Covenant, but I was snookered by things SRD had said over the years, particularly that in the Last Chronicles TC would become LF. I never, ever imagined he was Roger.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| dlbpharmd wrote: | | Frostheart wrote: |
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Yes! The first time through, I knew fake Cov wasn't Covenant, but I was snookered by things SRD had said over the years, particularly that in the Last Chronicles TC would become LF. I never, ever imagined he was Roger. |
Interesting.
I'm proud to say I figured it out on my first read through, as soon as I read Part 1, Chapter 3 of FR, and I have the post to prove it. 
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What's said at AH doesn't count. 
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...oh yeah? 
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I would have prefered Roger to have been a more ambiguous charachter. OK, SRD was fair enough in writting him as the villain of the piece - but very little slack has been cut him in description of the trauma's of his upbringing that have caused him to be the way he is - and he is almost a 'pantomime' charachter in the one dimensional presentation of his nature. Would it have been so hard for SRD to have given him a bit of the anti-hero nature his dad was so well endowed with - or even just a little bit of ambivalence ala Esmer?
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| peter wrote: | | I would have prefered Roger to have been a more ambiguous charachter. OK, SRD was fair enough in writting him as the villain of the piece - but very little slack has been cut him in description of the trauma's of his upbringing that have caused him to be the way he is - and he is almost a 'pantomime' charachter in the one dimensional presentation of his nature. Would it have been so hard for SRD to have given him a bit of the anti-hero nature his dad was so well endowed with - or even just a little bit of ambivalence ala Esmer? |
I agree. I've always been a bit suspicious when SRD says that he conceived the 2nd and Last Chronicles at the same time. I think if he had done so a character like Roger would have been primed more in the 2nd Chrons (even just as flashback or some few words by a clear-minded Joan). The vulgarity of the fake Covenant's language was annoying when I read it and, in retrospect, an obvious giveaway. (I also noticed when I was doing a reread of ROTE that there was more attention paid to ordinary things like toilet facilities than in the previous Chrons. I wonder if the Last Chrons are not 'less-fantasied' than the earlier ones?)
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| ussusimiel wrote: | I wonder if the Last Chrons are not 'less-fantasied' than the earlier ones?)
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ditto.
Yes I remember seeing this comment re the 2nd and 3rd series being conceived at the same time (in fact I'm not even sure that the statement was not made before even the 2nd were written/published - it was many, many years ago when I saw it first) - but I can't help but feel that the 3rd series as concieved then would have been a much different animal than that which we have in front of us now.
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