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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:37 am    Post subject: Memories of Ice [Spoilers] Reply with quote

hey Murrin...or Syl or who ever has an idea

i think i figured something out in the prologue of MoI.

this may have been hashed over at the Malazan Forum but i didn't check aforehand...

who is T'amber? (besides Tavore's "aide")

i'm on a re-read of MoI and things are starting to fall into place a bit in the old noggin.

before i get any further...what sword is Draconus forging?

Spoiler:
Rake's?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know any sword that Draconus forged other than Dragnipur, so probably.

I still have no idea who T'amber is. I was thinking she was a dude, though, since Tavore said something about knowing a person by their touch, but that's just a WAG.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know any sword that Draconus forged other than Dragnipur, so probably.

i'm a dink. not 10 pages later it says just that. Rolling Eyes space queen. there's just so MUCH to keep track of. *sigh*



I still have no idea who T'amber is. I was thinking she was a dude, though, since Tavore said something about knowing a person by their touch, but that's just a WAG.


anyway... i have a guess on T'amber. re-read the prologue.

the layers of this thing...K'rul, Draconus...

Spoiler:
i'm thinking T'amber could be Sister of Cold Nights.


"After a long moment, K'rul and his brother turned to their sister.
She shrugged. 'I shall endeavour to guard myself. When my destruction comes, it will be through betrayal and naught else. There can be no precaution against such a thing, lest my life become its own nightmare of suspicion and mistrust. To this, I shall not surrender. Until that moment, I shall continue to play the mortal game.'
'Careful, then,'K'rul murmured, 'whom you choose to fight for.'
'Find a companion,' Draconus advised. 'A worthy one.'"




however...i could be spacing some later scene in this book, not to mention HoC, MT, and BH, as i spaced the stupid sword. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, well, she could be *cold* to the touch.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have read MoI before, haven't you? Razz

The Sister of Cold Nights is identified in MoI, and there's a clue as to her identity right there in the prologue, when Kallor curses her.

The prologue of MoI is one of the more interesting ones. Includes a lot of little bits of information: The origin of the Great Ravens, the Fall of the Crippled God, Kallor's age and power, the forging of the sword, what happened to the Elder Gods, the beginning of the story of Togg and Fanderay... and something relevant to The Bonehunters:
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Kallor mentions Ardata holding out against him, always late to pay him tribute (though I believe it's spelled Ardatha in this one).

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on Lucimay, the Sister of Cold Nights is:

Spoiler:
Nightchill


That's why Kallor hates Silverfox so much.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Murrin wrote:
You have read MoI before, haven't you? Razz


yeeessssss! Razz but that was months ago! and i read really fast so sometimes the THOUSANDS OF DETAILS in these books all get jumbled together or (god forbid) missed entirely. i'm RE-READING for a reason guys! Embarassed

Murrin wrote:
The Sister of Cold Nights is identified in MoI, and there's a clue as to her identity right there in the prologue, when Kallor curses her.


alrighty then.

variol son wrote:
Come on Lucimay, the Sister of Cold Nights is:

Spoiler:
Nightchill


That's why Kallor hates Silverfox so much.


Shocked oh.


*sigh*



well at least i got the three of you in here talking about it! More Razz


i don't think T'amber is a "dude" Syl.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will admit Luci that I missed all of the hints we were given in Kallor's curses - I didn't realise who the Sister of Cold Nights was until someone else mentioned it to me. Very Happy

And yeah, T'amber is a chick.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i didn't miss the hints either the first time i read it or the second time. i got it...i just forgot between the first time i read it and the second. Laughing

can you say short term memory loss? (or maybe i'm old and just don't know it!! Laughing )

no really...there are things in this series that are hard to keep straight for me...there's soooo much and it's so all over the place.

i just don't have the encyclopedic Mind of Murrin, dabnabbit.

speaking of Murrin...where the hell is he? Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not reading any of your posts. I just wanted to say that the first 10 pages of MoI are awesome!!! Very Happy
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92 pages now. Absolutely stunning stuff!! Unquestionably my favorite book in the series so far! The levels of power involved are greater and farther reaching than ever. Yet so well done!! Not just throwing power around in a failed attempt to impress the reader. DAMN!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i told you he rocks. Big Grin
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MoI keeps getting better! Still not 200 pages, but still! Absolutely bizarre stuff going on.

And Tool is even better than he was in GotM!!! Hey, does Paolo know about the T'lan Imass?
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Fist and Faith wrote:
MoI keeps getting better! Still not 200 pages, but still! Absolutely bizarre stuff going on.

And Tool is even better than he was in GotM!!! Hey, does Paolo know about the T'lan Imass?


no! Laughing i have impressed upon him the need to read Erikson! (surprise surprise)

i wanted to explain the T'lan Imass to him but...didn't know how to convey the awesomeness of them so i didn't try. heh.

i'm rereading GotM and just got to the part where Tool comes up and helps Lorn!

i love Toc the Younger.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lucimay wrote:
no! Laughing i have impressed upon him the need to read Erikson! (surprise surprise)

i wanted to explain the T'lan Imass to him but...didn't know how to convey the awesomeness of them so i didn't try. heh.
I just tried to give him an inkling. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fist and Faith wrote:
Lucimay wrote:
no! Laughing i have impressed upon him the need to read Erikson! (surprise surprise)

i wanted to explain the T'lan Imass to him but...didn't know how to convey the awesomeness of them so i didn't try. heh.
I just tried to give him an inkling. Wink


makes me wish i spoke italian so i could tell him. he'd just LOVE it i KNOW. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

500 pages now. Still unbelievably cool!! Astonishing book!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The wars are amazing. First the Chain of Dogs, and now Capustan. Looooong, but not remotely boring!

The Pannion Domin are the nastiest s.o.b.'s!! Shocked Shocked DAMN!! YUCK!!!

Quick Ben is cooler every time he makes an appearance! Very Happy

The meetings between any or all of Dujek, Whiskeyjack, Rake, Brood, Kallor, Silverfox, Kruppe...

Kruppe!! Laughing What a character! He has some of the best one-liners! Can't wait to find out what his story is! Very Happy

I'm almost on page 600. Been a while since I saw Tool and the Seguleh. But we're hearing about them, Envy, and the dogs. Tearing up the Pannion Domin! Laughing What would an army of the Seguleh be like????? Shocked (Do we ever find out? heh)
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if i've heard correctly, the Seguleh are back in Reaper's Gale, but i'm not sure.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bonehunters:
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A Segulah is in BH, though he's a new character.
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