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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject: The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Reply with quote

I was watching Classic VH1 over the weekend and saw Eddie Trunk ranting about TR&RHoF, and I was compelled to agree with him.

It's a joke.

Bob Marley, Etta James, Hank Williams, Stevie Wonder, Gladys Knight, The Jackson Five, Miles Davis, P-Funk, Mahalia Jackson, Earth, Wind, & Fire, Billie Holliday, Isaac Hayes, Michael Jackson, Buddy Guy....Good musicians, but they ain't rock 'n roll.

And yet, no Rush, Blue Oyster Cult, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, King Crimson, Van Halen, Rainbow, or Deep Purple.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Issac Hayes clearly doesn't belong, but I'd argue the rest contributed alot to the Pantheon of R & R in very maningful ways.

Deep Purple gave us "the riff", BOC and JP are clear omissions...maybe Rush too... but as to the rest of your list, feh.

Van Halen especially was kind of liteweight in a creative sense. Eddies guitar style was gimmicky and none of 'em could write a song that was worth more than the vinyl it was printed on. Iron maiden...yawn.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry, Miles Davis is a genius, but he damn sure isn't a rocker, and has no place in the Hall of Fame.

Van Halen may be lightweights, but they are the archtypical American hard-rock band. And if being a lightweight is a disqualifier, throw out The Police, The Lovin' Spoonfull, Fleetwood Mac, and The Mamas and the Papas.

You heathen bastard, how dare you dis Iron Maiden?!?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no Badfinger?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Badfinger was a one-hit wonder that really didn't do much for rock 'n roll. I'm OK with their omission.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they were much more than a one hit wonder. check out the body of their work. from the Ivey's until Warner Bros. shut them down. Peter Ham was an amazing song writer. Molland a great straight ahead rocker. Evans a terrific counterpoint to Ham.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sadly, though I like Badfinger, they were a one-hit wonder.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing if Cail says its so, it IS so.

Cail man...you crack me up.


i'm going to start a Cail's Absolutes thread!!! just for YOU. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Day After Day" #4
"Come And Get It" #7
"No Matter What" #8
"Baby Blue" #14

and of course they wrote Without You
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C'mon Luci, you can't seriously argue that Badfinger was a rock 'n roll machine. They were a decent band, but they're a footnote in music.

This is what kills me about TR&RHoF...It's supposed to be a hall of fame....That means not everyone gets in, just the cream of the crop. As much as I loathe KISS, it's insane that they're not in, ditto with The Cars, or the other bands I listed.

IOW, just because you've been around more than 25 years (Tom Petty) doesn't mean you get in.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kiss and the Cars?
Badfinger no?

I give up.
that is crazy talk.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about Judas Priest? I definitely think they belong there.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cail wrote:
C'mon Luci, you can't seriously argue that Badfinger was a rock 'n roll machine. They were a decent band, but they're a footnote in music.



i'm not arguing ANYthing, dinkasaurus rex!!! i'm laughing at your absolutes! no dang ROOM to argue with you! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KISS, even though I think they suck, has sold a pile of albums, revolutionalized music merchandising, and influenced a pile of bands.

The Cars, in addition to having some great songs were pioneers in keyboard sequencing and were arguably the best-produced band of the '80s.

Yes Jenn, it's a crime that Judas Priest wasn't inducted the second they were eligible.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I own three Kiss lunchboxes as well as an Iron Maiden one.....
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

production value? then let Def Lepperd in post haste.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about Pat Benatar? I think she should be let in. And before you have a fit Cail, she was a huge success in the eighties.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the bar gets lower with each posting.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok....FINE....Sarge.....

How about Bad Company, or Steppenwolf, or Boston?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the record, I love Pat Benatar, and want to get real sweaty with her.

Bad Company and Steppenwolf, absolutely.

Boston......I can't be objective about Boston, I really hate 'em.
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