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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:04 am    Post subject: the Champions / Defenders Reply with quote



A strange group. and one who never reached their potential. I would like to see this group reformed. Though the last two (promised) additions have since died.

Angel


Iceman


Black Widow


Hercules


Ghost Rider


now for the dead folks. the first joined, the latter two were promised.

Darkstar


Black Goliath


Jack of Hearts


Easy enough to explain away. Darkstar was reabsorbed into the dark matter she wielded and brought back to life. Black Goliath is Foster's nephew, that is already going on in the Marvel books. and Jack could be reconstituted by Kree scientists. (because I like Kree scientists.)

the bad guys they fought.

Swarm


Crimson Dynamo


Titanium Man


Stilt-Man


M.O.D.O.K


Vanisher


Blob


Unus


who they should fight...

the Headmen


Gorilla-Man (Arthur Nagan) is a former surgeon who took the organs from gorillas to use in people. However his scheme was allegedly thwarted by the gorillas who somehow transplanted his head onto a gorilla’s body. He is a member of the Headmen and was a former member of the Lethal Legion.

Chondu the Mystic, sometimes known as Chondu the Yogi, Chondu was once a sideshow magician before becoming a professional criminal. He can cast minor magical spells and is a minor adept in the mystic arts. After joining the Headmen, Dr. Arthur Nagan transplanted Chondu’s brain into the body of Nighthawk in the Headmen’s bid to exploit the abilities of the Defenders. Doctor Strange later mystically placed Chondu’s consciousness within the body of a fawn. The Headmen then gave Chondu a monstrous form with eight lampreys for arms, bat-wings, a horn from his skull, a forked tongue, and eagle’s feet. In this form, he had superhuman strength, could fly, and could construct objects with his tentacle-like arms. This drove Chondu insane. When the Headmen later encountered the She-Hulk, the Headmen placed his head onto a clone of her body, and used chemical means to restore his sanity. Chondu was furious at being given a woman’s body. She-Hulk and Spider-Man battled the Headmen, and in the course of the fight, Chondu’s head was knocked free from its new body. Chondu remained alive thanks to life-support equipment attached to his head.

Shrunken Bones : Jerry Morgan is a genius in the organic sciences, and worked as a biologist and biochemist before becoming a professional criminal. Morgan experimented in cellular compression, and once succeeded in reducing his own size, using a gas similar to that used by Dr. Henry Pym to reduce his own size. However, a subsequent experiment reduced the size of Morgan’s skeleton somewhat, leaving his skin hanging loosely from his bones.

Ruby Thursday (Thursday Rubinstein) a member of the Headmen. She ran for President of the United States, but was forced to drop out by the Defenders. She later indirectly caused the death of Omega the Unknown when he was considered by police to be assaulting her in her car. The police were unaware of her previous actions, including killing people with a large purple creature called Dibbuk (named after, but unrelated to a dybbuk). The confrontration with Omega led Ruby into another fight with the Defenders. This ended when her head was smashed open. It is not known how Ruby survived this damage.mRuby later participated in the plan to gain her ally Chondu a new body. Specifically, the body of a clone of She-Hulk. The Headmen hired the Ringmaster and his Circus of Crime, then later Mysterio in order to test She-Hulk for compatabillity. She was subdued and cloned, but would escape with the aid of Spider-Man. Ruby was arrested by the New York city police.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked the idea of the champions, but there was such a disparity among the powerful versus the pedestrians on the team. That and Herculkes always bored me. Whatta shmuck.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the odd mixture. three mutants, one demi-god, one demon, one alien and two humans.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love M.O.D.O.K. Just sayin'.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheesh, you remembered the Iron-man villains (and those Defenders reject villains; YUCK!), but forgot Rampage!


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually I couldn't find a picture. so thank you! I believe he showed up in Civil War?

yes...

As of late 2006 and Punisher War Journal #1, Stuart is working with the Punisher during the Civil War event. He is obsessed with Iron Man and is giving Punisher the means to track down high tech supervillians, after Frank took down Stilt-Man and Tinkerer. At least for the moment, Stuart seems to be serving in the capacity of Punisher's former weapons expert and information gatherer, Microchip.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruby THURSDAY? I've spent the last 30 years thinking she was Ruby Tuesday! Was there a change or something?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/rubythursdayhm.htm

I find her always listed as Ruby Thursday.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked the Champions just fine. I own most of the first run. My biggest complaint about the original Champions book was that it featured art from artists that were something less than spectacular. It also seemed to suffer from being composed mostly of characters that were not popular enough to rate a book of their own. Most superhero groups have at least one top shelf character to draw readership from. The Champions needed a HULK (Defenders/Avengers) Iron Man (Avengers) Captain America (Avengers) The Thing (Fantastic Four) etc. to anchor the team's popularity. I suppose it was thought that Ghost Rider would have filled that role but not so much. But then again sometimes books take on a life of their own but only after presenting something new and appealing via the story and art.




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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The interior art wasn't always top-notch (though I do like the Byrne issues), but they did have some great covers:


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the reason I loved the Champions is because it had all second tier characters. I wish it had a chance to gain a following. I agree with dAN that the a top artist was needed. either Perez or Byrne for the whole run.

btw: Turd Ferguson is a great choice for a name!


Also, I thought this be a good place to post my request for another team.

the Defenders.

Doctor Strange


Namor the Sub-Mariner[/b]


Hulk


Silver Surfer


Ghost Rider


Son of Satan


Hercules


vs the Imperial Guard

Gladiator


Starbolt


Smasher


Warstar


Electron


Neutron


Mentor


Impulse


G-Type


Plutonia


Magique


Hyperion


Ares


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's page 1 from Defenders 45, notice it's dedicated to Neil, Geddy and Alex of Rush:



And page 3, where the stone demon speaks in lyrics similar to a line in Rush's 'Twilight Zone':


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keith Giffen and Klaus Janson rock!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

null wrote:
Electron


Neutron



WTF?!? Tom and I came up with Electron, Proton, and Neutron back in the mid-70's! I have proof, dammit!

Still, this only serves to verify that the characters were in fact gay.

Tom's unfinished Atomic 3 cover, circa '77:


My sketch of Electron, circa '81:


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Smasher




Smasher? With a "T" on his chest? Guess this idiot never won any freaking spelling bees.....
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Well your Electron is pretty cool but that first picture is pretty sad. I really couldn't draw well when I was 12. Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your stuff is still better than that of the creep who stole them from us!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dAN: Smasher is based on Ultra Boy, thus the t-ish looking design...

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh, so he has a giant "T" on his shirt because he's the Smasher (starts with an "S"), but is based on Ultra-Boy (starts with a "U"), and T is between S and U.......?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you are correct sir! now explain why Ultra Boy has super ventriloquism.
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