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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And the ability to be annoying is what makes him a good choice for Nick. Smile

Tom Cruise as Linden anyone?


eloquently stated wayfriend .. lol

and lol .. cov jr

Nick is s'posed to be smooth .. what about paul walker????? Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the Hollywood are are back to work...
has there been any new news?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, this is all news to me.

Personally, I think Cruise would have just the right "teeth" for pulling off the role of Nick.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a few big scrathes on Cruise's face would make him look better, I still say Mickey Rourke for Angus-but he's getting older and funkier looking by the minute.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow, this is all news to me.

Personally, I think Cruise would have just the right "teeth" for pulling off the role of Nick.

(heh)


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cruise would ruin the dynamics of the movie just being in it. His image is too big for a movie that requires judicious screen time on so many characters. Somebody mentioned the idea of a bunch of no-names...I like that too. Would also lend credibility to its presumably hard-science direction. I guess there's no reason to assume that though huh?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree .. I think Cruise as Nick would work for two reasons ... 1) Cruise is always better when he plays a charming guy will loose/weak morals ... and 2) it would be like ALien or Psycho where you are not expecting the supposed 'main' actor to get killed in a shocking manner. By their presence alone you almost automatically think they will somehow survive...

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm reminded of Steven Segal's role in Executive Decision. He has a total of 5 minutes of screen time before he buys it (and he was still a bankable star at that point). Totally shocking and very effective.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm reminded of Steven Segal's role in Executive Decision. He has a total of 5 minutes of screen time before he buys it (and he was still a bankable star at that point). Totally shocking and very effective.
And utterly relieving Wink I cheered myself hoarse!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I disagree .. I think Cruise as Nick would work for two reasons ... 1) Cruise is always better when he plays a charming guy will loose/weak morals ... and 2) it would be like ALien or Psycho where you are not expecting the supposed 'main' actor to get killed in a shocking manner. By their presence alone you almost automatically think they will somehow survive...

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Fair enough I guess, but I hate Cruise. He has little man complex. 5'7" and you can never tell on camera by the way they shoot it. He seems to be addicted to doing movies where he is the hero with all the moves, the fighting skills and etc - little man disease.

Don't take my post too seriously here...I'm a short dude too, and we know when of our own is overcompensating.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the book Nick (to me) is slick, charming, good looking, but radiates lethality, a subtle danger. I can't see that in Cruise.

I enjoyed his acting in Minority Report, but I am not sure it was because of him or the story - somebody else could've worked equally well in the role.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(except for Keanu Wink )
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't stand Tom Cruise and if he's cast as anything in the movie, I'm sorry but I won't watch it and that would be a shame.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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(except for Keanu )
What??? Keanu is like totally rad, man!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I disagree .. I think Cruise as Nick would work for two reasons ... 1) Cruise is always better when he plays a charming guy will loose/weak morals ... and 2) it would be like ALien or Psycho where you are not expecting the supposed 'main' actor to get killed in a shocking manner. By their presence alone you almost automatically think they will somehow survive...

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Fair enough I guess, but I hate Cruise. He has little man complex. 5'7" and you can never tell on camera by the way they shoot it. He seems to be addicted to doing movies where he is the hero with all the moves, the fighting skills and etc - little man disease.

Don't take my post too seriously here...I'm a short dude too, and we know when of our own is overcompensating.
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Laughing ... fair enough...
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But I disagree with Cruise not being able to emote a lethal quality on film... (i'm not a fan of the 'man' either ... can't stand him as a real person, but his on screen presence cannot be denied) ... check him out in Collateral ... very effectinve in that.
And imagine seeing a Tom Cruise character who starts off all charming and schmarmy and "I am the best", then slowly degrades and becomes a pathetic character before he dies ... that would be something to see on screen and TOALLY effective ...
but knowing how Tom Cruise picks roles (as observed by Paranoia) I doubt if he would take such a role (unless he got many rewrites to make him actually heroic in the end .. grrrr...)

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ParanoiA wrote:
Usivius wrote:
I disagree .. I think Cruise as Nick would work for two reasons ... 1) Cruise is always better when he plays a charming guy will loose/weak morals ... and 2) it would be like ALien or Psycho where you are not expecting the supposed 'main' actor to get killed in a shocking manner. By their presence alone you almost automatically think they will somehow survive...

Smile
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Fair enough I guess, but I hate Cruise. He has little man complex. 5'7" and you can never tell on camera by the way they shoot it. He seems to be addicted to doing movies where he is the hero with all the moves, the fighting skills and etc - little man disease.

Don't take my post too seriously here...I'm a short dude too, and we know when of our own is overcompensating.
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Laughing ... fair enough...
Smile

But I disagree with Cruise not being able to emote a lethal quality on film... (i'm not a fan of the 'man' either ... can't stand him as a real person, but his on screen presence cannot be denied) ... check him out in Collateral ... very effectinve in that.
And imagine seeing a Tom Cruise character who starts off all charming and schmarmy and "I am the best", then slowly degrades and becomes a pathetic character before he dies ... that would be something to see on screen and TOALLY effective ...
but knowing how Tom Cruise picks roles (as observed by Paranoia) I doubt if he would take such a role (unless he got many rewrites to make him actually heroic in the end .. grrrr...)

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usivius wrote:
But I disagree with Cruise not being able to emote a lethal quality on film... (i'm not a fan of the 'man' either ... can't stand him as a real person, but his on screen presence cannot be denied) ... check him out in Collateral ... very effectinve in that.
And imagine seeing a Tom Cruise character who starts off all charming and schmarmy and "I am the best", then slowly degrades and becomes a pathetic character before he dies ... that would be something to see on screen and TOALLY effective ...
but knowing how Tom Cruise picks roles (as observed by Paranoia) I doubt if he would take such a role (unless he got many rewrites to make him actually heroic in the end .. grrrr...)

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Which is my main concern. Secondary is the effect of adding the name Cruise to any movie. War of the Worlds was noteworthy in that Cruise's face was not on the promos. It took a director of Spielberg's status to accomplish that. Then comes the DVD release and Tom's on the cover.

His ability to be Nick is not the issue (I almost like the idea of him taking a part that gets killed unexpectedly). Can he take a role that won't keep him center stage? Almost as important, can the studio/producer/director who casts him avoid the temptation that Cruise's popularity brings?

A solution to that is beginning the last Gap movie with the massif 5 escape. Nick dies, and Cruise's audience has already paid for their ticket.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Then comes the DVD release and Tom's on the cover.


Which, I might add, was not the reality for most countries.

ItisWritten wrote:
Can he take a role that won't keep him center stage? Almost as important, can the studio/producer/director who casts him avoid the temptation that Cruise's popularity brings?


It's as though you think it's Cruise's fault. He can't help it if marketing operates that way, but he's been in some movies recenty, such as Collateral, where it's not a 'Cruise-movie'. If the director and producer can manage to bring us a convincing Nick, then all this debating about Cruise is really futile.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tom Cruise Hires MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE II Writer Ronald D. Moore For Big-Screen UA Sci-Fi Trilogy!!

Nobody knows what this big-screen trilogy is about.

... Read all of Variety’s story on the matter here.
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