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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 7:23 pm    Post subject: Ravers Reply with quote

I know this is a favorite subject of some of you. Smile

Does anyone have a list of all the names for the ravers? Who/what they possessed in the past, etc?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

samadhi sheol possessed (that we know of):

the king of doriendor corishev
1 of the 3 giant brothers of 1 birth (satansfist)
the na-mhoram (gibbon & others)

turiya herem possessed (that we know of):

the demondim (lead 2 spawning of ur-viles & waynhim)
1 of the 3 giant brothers of 1 birth (kinslaughterer)
yeurquin
triok
cord whane
the stone creatures that took TC & LA thru mt thunder 2 kiril threndor

moksha jehannum possessed (that we know of):

the demondim (lead 2 spawning of ur-viles & waynhim)
1 of the 3 giant brothers of 1 birth (fleshharrower)
the man who went 2 souring woodhelven 2 make them distrust TC
cord lal
the stone creatures that took TC & LA thru mt thunder 2 kiril threndor
linden avery herself

also we know that either moksha jehannum or turiya herem or both possessed marid, the bees, the rats, the spider, & all the other things that bit TC in the 2nd chrons.

i may have missed a few, but i think thats most of them.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked How do u remember all that kinda stuff? The guy at Soaring Woodhelven would be Jehannum. A Raver(s?) attacks our company on the Dromond but we never figure out xactly who it is do we?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, don't look at me. It was Moksha, I swear! Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Eyes Oh yeah? Like I'm supposed 2 believe a RAVER???!!! Shocked Rolling Eyes Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where was it stated that a raver possessed the Demondim, which led to the creation of the ur-viles and wayhnim? I don't remember that.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

danlo wrote:
Rolling Eyes Oh yeah? Like I'm supposed 2 believe a RAVER???!!! Shocked Rolling Eyes Very Happy
*snarls* Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the illearth war, chapter 4: may be lost, page 66 (may not b helpful 4 every1 Rolling Eyes )

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'It was samadhi, now named Sheol, who mastered the heart of Berek's liege - Sheol who slaughtered the champions of the Land, and drove Berek, half-unhanded and alone, to his extremity on the slopes of Mount Thunder. It was turiya and moksha, Herem and Jehannum, who lured the powerful and austere Demondim to their breeding dens, and to the spawning of the ur-viles.


mhoram found all this out wen he touched samadhi Sheol in the body of an ur-vile on the marge of hatosh slay.

& i have a partly fotografic memory. Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! That was well hidden. I remembered that one of the Ravers had possessed the King, but not the Demondim part.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But isn't it interesting how every character is pushed to the extreme (like it says Berek is in the above passage) to reach their full potential. It happens with Mhoram in TPTP, and TC finally in WGW. It also happens with Foamfollower in TPTP and Hile Troy in TIW.

Does anyone else see the pattern?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yes, I have always seen that. It is how they handle their despair that makes this story so engrossing, for me anyway.

Pushed to the brink of choice and action...not knowing whether their action will save or damn...the paradox of white gold, but it is also the paradox of power, any power.

Mhoram discovers the secret to the Ritual of Desecration, but through his Oath of Peace he turns that power from destruction to the power that holds Revelstone. But he doesn't do it until it is the last resort.

And Covenant surrenders his ring only after no other choice is available. THAT was the big risk, relinquishing the power, there were so many ways Foul could have defeated him. Yet, Foul was blinded by the extremity of that power, Covenant knew he would be.

Okay..I am babbling...will stop now Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey furl, ud b amazed how amny great ideas emerge from a whole lotta babble. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about rambling? Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

babbling, rambling, its all much of a muchness.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and alot of an allotment. (**thinks of pie! Very Happy**)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much of a muchness? Can I use that, would make great retoric for a poem...LOL!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jefe, would you say I have a plethora of puns?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Furls Fire wrote:
Much of a muchness? Can I use that, would make great retoric for a poem...LOL!


its not mine, so go 4 ur life. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahh a silly thread .. filled with silly people!! LOL .. my fav kinda thread .. so what we talking about??
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, we were babbling about Ravers...then it just became babble about babble.
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