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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:19 am    Post subject: roger waters Reply with quote

his announced tour dates.
http://www.rogerwaters.org/2008.html#JAN08

he will be performing Dark Side of the Moon.

julie bought our tickets today!

Roger Waters - Leaving Beirut
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nwDzATryei8

Roger Waters - Hello (I Love You)
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Marianne Faithfull - Incarceration of a flower child (live)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He actually gave a hell of a show when I saw him in Indy a little over a year ago. He's starting to wear his politics a little prominently for my tastes these days though. (Well, not that his mouth wasn't *always* too big)

Honestly though, it was a great version of DarkSide. If only his damn Ego hadn't eclipsed the rest of the band so much. (I'm sick of him constantly minimizing Gilmour's importance to Pink Floyd)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pass. While I fully acknowledge Roger's writing contribution to Floyd, he's not a good performer. I saw one of his recent DVDs, and had difficulty sitting through it. No one has ever accused him of having a great voice or being a great musician, but I at least expected him to surround himself with people who played the music well.

To my ear, Floyd songs without David's guitar and voice (and especially with the people Roger has chosen to use), just don't measure up.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He actually gave a hell of a show when I saw him in Indy a little over a year ago. He's starting to wear his politics a little prominently for my tastes these days though. (Well, not that his mouth wasn't *always* too big)

Honestly though, it was a great version of DarkSide. If only his damn Ego hadn't eclipsed the rest of the band so much. (I'm sick of him constantly minimizing Gilmour's importance to Pink Floyd)


he seems to have come around in the last few years.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife and I went to a RW show a few years ago here in Tampa. We couldn't make it though the entire performance. Roger wasn't exactly ON and he had a video display behind him that projected abstract images that reminded us of...uh...diarrhea. After about 45 minutes of not being all that entertained and feeling a little sick to our stomachs some drunk guy nearby began to vomit. To add insult to injury the poor guy began staggering up some steps and then fell backward down to the concrete in a very disturbing way. People rushed to help the guy and carried him off but that was just about all we could handle. I'll always remember that experience. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i am going to enjoy the show. but thanks for the visuals tom. Smile Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, interesting. Has he released anything new recently? I didn't think so, but I may have missed it. I do really like Amused to Death, though that's 15+ years old now....
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radio Kaos is pretty cool too. He's really a pretty good songwriter, It's just a damn shame when a team like Gilmour/Waters go their separate ways. The result was better than the sum of the parts.

You're right, he's not as gifted a musician as Gilmour for sure. (He *was* a more than competent bassist) The last show I saw had pretty good sound, and I was even a little surprised at what he did with "on the run" and any "colour you like". I might call his versions the best I've seen to date.

And Live in Berlin is bloody good fun! (Except for Sinead O'Connor singing "Mother.... GAG me) C'mon, who doesn't love the Scorpions as the surrogate band!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gilmour played most (if not all) of the challenging bass parts like "Hey You".

Live in Berlin was.....Interesting.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RADIO KAOS show that was in Tampa was good,
but seen Gilmour during his ABOUT FACE tour and IMO, was much better. Visuals and music.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so far two different sergeants at work and one Lt are trying for tickets. and maybe the guy who delivers our bread. it will be cool to have a contingent there.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hmm, interesting. Has he released anything new recently? I didn't think so, but I may have missed it. I do really like Amused to Death, though that's 15+ years old now....


He released an opera.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Roger, have seen him twice and will probably see him again if he comes close but honestly he could have chosen something different this time, not DSOTM. I do not know, complete Animals maybe, or come up with something different, like The Wall spruced up with songs from TFC, they were intended to be the same anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed. He's gone to the DSotM well too many times.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was told that his Dark Side of the Moon tours from 2007 were easily the best going gig wise.

My partner saw him twice and worked one of the shows and he said he would have paid to see him again, which is something he never does.

I missed his UK leg of the tour unfortunatly so I hope he comes this way again sometime soon.
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Shocked Seriously? Is it any good? That seems surprising to me, because I never really thought Roger's sense of melody was one of his strong points. (He had plenty of other strong points, but melody, not so much.)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ÇA IRA

After many years of waiting, Roger's opera Ca Ira saw it's premièr performance in Rome on 17 November 2005.On this page, you can read reviews of the opera (Both the live performance, and the DVD) see a bunch of pictures, read up on the background and ACCESS VIDEO clip of the premièr which includes Roger's introduction.

The Times November 19, 2005

Pink Floyd never sounded like this (nor did Puccini) From Richard Owen in Rome

ROGER WATERS awoke yesterday to reviews judging him not as the famous co-founder of Pink Floyd but as an aspiring composer of opera.

Back in the summer the long-estranged Waters and Dave Gilmour played together for the first time in a quarter of a century, at the Live 8 concert in Hyde Park. This week Pink Floyd were inducted into the Hall of Fame at Alexandra Palace, with Waters taking part by satellite link from Rome.

His new incarnation is as composer of Ça Ira, a three-act opera about the French Revolution that took 16 years to write. The aim, he said, after the world premiere in Rome, remained to “create an emotional response”, and his inspiration came from Mahler, Brahms, Prokofiev, Verdi, Donizetti and Puccini. As Waters, 61, bounded on stage to greet the sell- out audience in Italian at Rome’s Music Auditorium, however — all open-necked shirt, craggy features and flowing silver hair — the standing ovation was as much for the rock legend as for Ça Ira.

“Waters is not so much Verdi or Puccini, more Andrew Lloyd Webber,” La Repubblica said. The opera was “eclectic” and derivative, with more “songs” than arias, and relentless crescendos in the style of Carl Orff. It was “like an elephant trying to take to the air with a small pair of wings”.

Yet what a bravura performance, said Il Messaggero, the Rome daily. It praised the staging and sound-effects, from cannon fire and the swish of the guillotine, to birdsong at Versailles and the ominous cawing of crows as Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette approach their doom. A chorus of young voices — reminiscent of Pink Floyd’s The Wall — provides a poignant counterpoint.

Waters was philosophical: the knives had been bound to come out, and at least his work was “genuine”. He had been working on the opera since the bicentenary of the revolution, when his friends Etienne and Nadine Roda-Gil asked him to set their libretto to music. The theme, he said, was not unlike The Wall: despair and deprivation giving birth to hope and the human spirit.

Ça Ira (literally “It Will Go” but meaning something more like “There is Hope”) is clearly inspired as much by the Paris of 1968 as by the Paris of 1789. Waters met Etienne Roda-Gil — who wrote songs for Juliette Greco, among others — during the 1968 student revolt.

Ça Ira was performed by the Rome Sinfonietta, under Rick Wentworth, the cast including the British singers Sarah Leonard and Keel Watson.

As for Pink Floyd, a further reunion was very unlikely, even though he had enjoyed the Live 8 reunion, he said. At Alexandra Palace, Gilmour had been in similar mood: “The Live 8 moment was a wonderful moment, but we’ve moved on and there are lots of other things to be thrilled about these days.”

Taken from the German Sueddeutsche Zeitung. 19 Nov. 2005

Ca Ira
Roger welcomed the audience in Italian, knowing that English is not "the fine way" here in Rome.

It has taken Roger Waters many years to write this opera, or at least what he thinks is an opera. It was obvious that this couldn't have been easy for him, compared to his music in the past.

It was hard to understand how it had taken him 15 years of work, but the fact is that this is his first attempt to classical music.

The word opera in this case is misunderstood. Etienne Roda-Gil wrote a narration for a single person to read. The appearance of libretto-events with no pause or stop, no middle, and no great finale, has forced Waters to take shortcuts.

The yearning of many pop musicians to write for a classical orchestra easily understood, but in practice leads to nothing, because pop music does not need the complexities and difficult apparatus of classical music.

Roger Waters obvious talent for composing complex shapes and soundbuilding is missing here. Rick Wentworth has tried to rectify this, but where there is nothing to find, there is nothing you can do.

The classical elements such as duos, triois or quartetts are missing completely. And such pieces must be in an opera to give the piece a kind of structure.

But being the first classical piece written by him, its not so bad. He needs some more efforts to come along with the difficulties and details of classical music"
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the show last night was awesome! just great. mostly standards, but some surprises. roger's son harry plays kpiano for him.

set list.

In the Flesh
Mother
Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun
Shine On You Crazy Diamond
Have A Cigar
Wish You Were Here
South Hampton Dock
Fletcher Memorial Home
Perfect Sense
Leaving Beirut
Sheep

intermission

Dark Side of the Moon (entire album)

encore

Another Brick In the Wall pt II
Vera Lynn
Bring the Boys Back Home
Comfortably Numb

will post pics and a review when i get up.
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In the Flesh - bombastic, but high spirited. woke up the crowd.

Mother - very well done. the female singer really stood out.

Set the Controls - smoking! really nice musical interlude in it. his band is tight.

Shine On - very moving. with pics of Syd playing in the background.
Have A Cigar - nice to hear Roger sing this! he needs to release it so I can replace the album version. his vocals are excellent tonight. only one or two misses.

Wish You Were Here - again, very moving tribute. I prefer the arrangement he did on his last tour, but this was very nice.

SouthHampton Dock - topical. no surprise except that it led to...

Fletcher Memorial Home - from his hugely underappreciated Final Cut. excellent vids showing various tyrants. extremely well done. I was stoked, I love the Final Cut.

Perfect Sense - other than the Marv Albert tape I love this song. again the female vocalist was outstanding. and I love the break where she sings!

Leaving Beirut - not a favorite. I would like to hear it in the context of an album. scored some points with the Texas lines. Smile

Sheep - outstanding version! and the giant, inflatable pig came out. the crowed roared! the arrangement was a piledriver. excellent work.

interlude.

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess the vocalist you're talking about is P.P. Arnold. She has done an awesome job on all of Roger's tours in recent years.
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