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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:21 pm    Post subject: Alice in Chains Reply with quote

New album coming out this summer. Yes, they have a new singer - William DuVall.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huh. Is this guy any good?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. I had plans to see them in Baltimore in '06 prior to my ex going batshit insane. Yeah, this guy is good. Can't wait to hear the new album.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Cantrell's stuff even without Staley. You definitely can't replace Lane, but I'll still give it a try--probably miles better than most of the crap out there...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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--probably miles better than most of the crap out there...
Amen! Why does new music suck so bad? I don't want to sound like my grandfather, but crap, why don't we even have music at least as good as the 90s? Can we blame mp3s? Illegal downloading? I don't get it. I'm not completely a classic rock kind of guy. I love Soundgarden. I liked the grunge movement. But damn, that stuff is now 10+ years old!!! I really want to have some new music I can enjoy, but I keep going back to Rush and Tool because they are the only bands still making music I can stand.

Here's hoping this doesn't suck! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What have they taken all the fun out of creativity and heroin addiction? Even though I love a lot of Disturbed, if they're the best out there than we're really in trouble...

...don't worry the revolution's coming, we always get better music in times of unrest (it's sorta like the fact that I can only write poetry when I'm three steps from the street, and trying like hell just to survive...Razz ).
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Single out on aliceinchains.com (will send a dl link to your email) or on their myspace page.

I've given it three plays so far (four while writing this). The feel is definitely AiC. I'd put it somewhere between Dirt and Tripod with a heavy dose of Cantrell's 'solo' stuff. The sound might be a little too slick for its own good. I can't really weigh in on it without hearing the rest of the album (I could say the same of some of the tracks off of Tripod, but it ended up giving a more cohesive feel to the album).

The big question is the vocals. I'm impressed. He's not Layne, and he's not really trying to be, though there is an obvious effort (appreciated by this fan) to keep it sounding like AiC, thus sounding something like him. The guy's got talent, and I think he'll bring something the Cantrell albums lacked. The harmonies are pure Cantrell, though.

I don't think I've looked forward to an album this much in a long, long time.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The album's out now. I've only had a chance to listen to it once, and my attention was barely on it, but I like it.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heard a new song today.....very, very good.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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--probably miles better than most of the crap out there...
Amen! Why does new music suck so bad? I don't want to sound like my grandfather, but crap, why don't we even have music at least as good as the 90s? Can we blame mp3s? Illegal downloading? I don't get it. I'm not completely a classic rock kind of guy. I love Soundgarden. I liked the grunge movement. But damn, that stuff is now 10+ years old!!! I really want to have some new music I can enjoy, but I keep going back to Rush and Tool because they are the only bands still making music I can stand.

Here's hoping this doesn't suck! Very Happy


There are plenty, the studio system is just in it's death throws and spewing out mountains of crap. There are bands out there doing massively awesome things that never leave the underground. (Or the shores of the Atlantic. Compare the UK top 40 to America's today, there is rarely any intersection.)

Maybe it's a sign your getting old? When you start thinking everything new sucks. I hardly hate the classics. (My most heavily played albums in the past month are probably David Bowie's Scary Monsters, The Clash's London Calling, Mastadon's Leviathan, and Modest Mouse's The Moon and Antarctica. Old and New...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I am getting older (37 and counting). Smile But I *want* to like new stuff. I did say I like Rush and Tool's new music.

I just listened to Check My Brain. Pretty monotonous. I like the sound, and yes it does sound like AIC. But I hope the rest is better.

I'm open to anything (except rap and country). I'm starving for new music. Any recommendations? I want to be blown away by a new band. That hasn't happened in a long, long time.

[Edit: actually, Tenacious D has been my biggest surprise this century.]
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alice in Chains is one of my favorites. I still like to hear them. I thought they went downhill when Lane got off the heroin tho. Oddly enough, I don't like the rooster. I liked NIN at about the same time I listened to a lot of Alice and I don't like NIN anymore. I have a feeling I won't be a huge fan of the new stuff, but here's to hoping I'm wrong.
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I thought they went downhill when Lane got off the heroin tho.

I suppose you could say that.
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I'm open to anything (except rap and country). I'm starving for new music. Any recommendations? I want to be blown away by a new band. That hasn't happened in a long, long time.


Well, you haven't given me much to go on but If I were going to mix Tool and Rush I might come out with something like Porcupine Tree, a prog band with some harder tendencies. Try either their "Deadwing" Album or "In Absentia". They certainly aren't a new band but hopefully they'll be new to you.

I like to think of myself as a new music afficianado. Give me some other stuff you like and I'll try to come up with a few more recommendations.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brinn, The Dreaming gave me some recommendations that I'll try out, but I can always use more.

I like jazz fusion and prog rock. King Crimson, Bela Fleck and Flecktones, Yes, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Spock's Beard, Allen Holdsworth, Dixie Dregs, etc.

But I also like classic rock. Led Zep, Kansas, Beatles, Van Halen, Pink Floyd, etc. You can throw some "grundge" in there too . . . Soundgarden and AIC, STP.

I love Rush because their 35 year career spans so many different styles. I can pop in a Rush CD if I'm in the mood for 70s, 80s, 90s, or 00s music. I've never heard a band evolve as much as they have.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm open to anything (except rap and country). I'm starving for new music. Any recommendations? I want to be blown away by a new band. That hasn't happened in a long, long time.


Well, you haven't given me much to go on but If I were going to mix Tool and Rush I might come out with something like Porcupine Tree, a prog band with some harder tendencies. Try either their "Deadwing" Album or "In Absentia". They certainly aren't a new band but hopefully they'll be new to you.

I like to think of myself as a new music afficianado. Give me some other stuff you like and I'll try to come up with a few more recommendations.


"Fear of a Blank Planet" is exceptional. My dad is a huge fan of this band. I'm kind of back/forth with them. Sometimes it seems like Wilson is trying to sound like too many things, but being a fan of prog, I can't dislike ambition.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In this increasingly off-topic discussion . . . I heard that Alex Lifeson played on the latest Porcupine Tree release. That might be the next one I try.
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Sometimes it seems like Wilson is trying to sound like too many things, but being a fan of prog, I can't dislike ambition.
Variety is nice, unless it doesn't sound authentic. If it just sounds like a hodge-podge of all the artists' influences, then this can get tiresome. Dream Theater, for instance, has never grabbed me because they don't seem to have a sound all their own. Or maybe I just didn't like their songs. Or maybe I haven't given them enough of a chance.

This discussion got me thinking about Dixie Dregs again. If you love prog, and you haven't given them a try, you're missing out on a distinctively American prog rock band. Definitely some southern influence in Steve Morse's sound.

And DD fans? (The band, not the bra size. Smile )
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Dream Theater is a band that has released a pretty eclectic group of albums. If you are looking for something focused from them, Train of Thought is probably the album you need to listen too. It might be their best album, and its certainly their most consistent.
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It's funny, listening to The Boneyard last night and "Pull Me Under" came on. To me, it's a rote example of how to make that kind of music. Spacey keyboards? Check. Nebulous lyrics? Check. Stuttering drums and guitars? Check. Needless time changes? You betcha.

It's like someone went to the mall and visited the "Build a Prog-Metal Song Workshop".
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I like jazz fusion and prog rock. King Crimson, Bela Fleck and Flecktones, Yes, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Spock's Beard, Allen Holdsworth, Dixie Dregs, etc.

But I also like classic rock. Led Zep, Kansas, Beatles, Van Halen, Pink Floyd, etc. You can throw some "grundge" in there too . . . Soundgarden and AIC, STP.

I love Rush because their 35 year career spans so many different styles. I can pop in a Rush CD if I'm in the mood for 70s, 80s, 90s, or 00s music. I've never heard a band evolve as much as they have.


Thank God you put the Beatles in there, Malik..otherwise I would think we share the same music brain...heh..I'm going to put on "Metal Fatique" right now, as background for posting...you've inspired me.
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