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Does RotE "Suck"?
I wish SRD had never written it!!!
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Yes. Poor is the word.
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Meh.
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No. I liked it.
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I don't understand you people, I loved this one!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:00 am    Post subject: Your Opinion of RotE? Reply with quote

What's yur take?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:52 am    Post subject: Re: Your Opinion of RotE? Reply with quote

jacob Raver, sinTempter wrote:
What's yur take?


Define "meh" please!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, uninterested...mediocre, meh.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankly, I find that the story just gets crazier and crazier. Kind of like the original Star Wars that had a story that mostly made sense deteriorate into a family affair: "I am your father!" and "She is my sister!" and "What I told you was true, from a certain point of view." Only Runes magnifies it. As depressing as I found the second series to be, it didn't really do that. (I am a big fan of the first series, would've dumped the second series - only the climax of WGW was so (both) logical and mega-cool that I found I could tolerate the build-up.
Runes is an overblow of: he's plotting to do this, she's plotting to do that, and they all hide it in double and triple speak and the interrelations cease to be like what we know in real life. The sequel intensified this for me. I'm not sure whether I care to follow it any further (never mind that I have to specially order it from America). I just can't get worked up about the Mahdoubt or the Masters the way I do about Foamfollower and the Bloodguard.

"We are the Bloodguard." I really miss that line.

I note that the thread would not be so titled unless it was a serious possibility.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ROTE is ok. FR is better.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I chose the last one..... I would read third party offshoots of this story if they were written, so anything by SRD is going to be received happily from me.. unless he just sums it up by saying TC had a brain tumor and after the tumors removal all memory of the land ceased to exist including his delusion that he had leprosy, so barring that i am all good.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked the beginning. I liked the run up the mountainside with Anele's story and the kresh catching up. I like Esmer, the ramen, verge of wandering. I loved the horserite. I even liked Linden creating a caesure and going back in time.

Sometime after that, it went downhill for me. Maybe going back in time should have been a bigger deal. The demondim were disappointing. The last quarter seemed rushed. I didn't like what the Masters had turned into. And Linden's dilemma with the Masters didn't seem to have enough urgency.

But I liked it.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really was surprised by RotE in B&N. I had to look the book over for twenty minutes before I was convinced that it was a new TC book, at which point, I frightened all within the the store with a hearty, "HELL, YEAH!" This feeling was only intensified for me when time travel became a factor...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riiigghhhtttt! "Holy Crap, OMG, f***...a new Covenant?!!!!!!"
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malik23 wrote:
I didn't like what the Masters had turned into.


That's something I hadn't thought of really, but it's true. How hard it is to actually almost dislike Haruchai, regardless of why. Personally I find their plight in the 3rd Chrons more of an abomination then the 2nd. At least in the 2nd they had not lost sight of who they were and what they are about.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Malik23 wrote:
I didn't like what the Masters had turned into.


That's something I hadn't thought of really, but it's true. How hard it is to actually almost dislike Haruchai, regardless of why. Personally I find their plight in the 3rd Chrons more of an abomination then the 2nd. At least in the 2nd they had not lost sight of who they were and what they are about.


Bump...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why bump a post that was only posted 6 minutes before the quoted post was posted?

...just wonderin' ..... Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:45 am    Post subject: Your Opinion of RotE? Reply with quote

I liked it margainally more than FR ...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seareach wrote:
why bump a post that was only posted 6 minutes before the quoted post was posted?

...just wonderin' ..... Confused


doesn't "bump" mean "I agree with the last post"?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that to "bump" a post is to take one that hasn't been posted on for a while and "bump" it back up so that people are aware of its existence.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, rdhopeca right. I always actually thought it was an anagram for "bring up my post" but that might just be purely coincidental.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seareach wrote:
yeah, rdhopeca right. I always actually thought it was an anagram for "bring up my post" but that might just be purely coincidental.


Well then, 6 minutes is too long...need...to...post...more...quicker...precious...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Runes...

Ah.

I liked it. The first time I read it I wasn't prepared for how different to the First Chrons it was. Though I felt the same with teh 2nd Chrons, coz the Land was so different. And ultimately I wanted it to be a little different to what it was.

BUT now, after re-reading it and all I really like it. I love the pride of the Ramen, and the ramen v bloodguard conflict. I love Stave's stance he takes against the rest of the Masters..

SD was very bold to demonstrate the Haruchai as something dangerous to the Land. Respect for that.
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just about done with my second time through RotE, and it is growing on me.

I Have to agree with a lot of what Ninjaboy has said.

Even Liand doesn't irk me so much this time through.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:24 am    Post subject: Stave ROOLS Reply with quote

I think Stephen Donaldson has outdone himself this time!

The Runes of the Earth is...ah hell, like Stave said to Linden in the Stonedown goal, 'there's aren't sufficient words to describe it!'.

Did anyone see the significance of Jeremiah's Greek Temple?
Greek temples were mostly used for votive offerings (the modern equivalent would be coins thrown into a fountain): sacrificial offerings were usually done outside the temple. So it's likely that Liand is an offering to Linden by the Master's. Why would they do this?

The Runes of the Earth is breathtaking. I have to close the book to catch my breath; drink some coffee, take a walk outside. I'm already regreting reaching the last chapter as it will take a long time to return afresh.

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