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Was Lord Foul called Lord Foul while on the Council?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Furls Fire wrote:
You know, SRD isn't one to just throw stuff in and then leave it. The more I think about the name of "Jeroth", the more I'm inclined to think that maybe it WAS Foul's name on the council.

The Raver of course would know what name Foul used. And the raver became the head of the Clave, and the Clave is what distorted history. So, I'm starting to doubt that they just pulled the name "Jeroth" out of a hat. I don't think SRD would either. Smile

I would love to see this theory proved correct, as it is quite logical. But I just don't think the information is there, in TCTC. (imo)
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hehe..nope..it's not..just a wild guess on my part Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep, i'm quite happy to settle with Jeroth... not literally u understand...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always been pretty sure that the only reason that he is called Lord Foul in the chrons is because that was the name he took when he infiltrated the council. I assumed that the despiser was never called Lord Foul until after Foul's Betrayal.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Murrin wrote:
I've always been pretty sure that the only reason that he is called Lord Foul in the chrons is because that was the name he took when he infiltrated the council. I assumed that the despiser was never called Lord Foul until after Foul's Betrayal.


Would he really go around calling himself Lord Foul? I very much doubt it. I don't have any evidence, it's just that it doesn't seem right.

"Hi Kevin! I'm Foul and I would like to be a lord in your council".

And if his first name is Foul what is his last name then? Razz

But I agree that the despiser couldn't have been called Lord Foul until after the betrayal. No one could know that Lord Foul (or Lord Dave or whatever his name was) actually was the despiser.

If this was a poll I would vote for Lord Jeroth. Jeroth would be his taken name, it's suitable especially because of a-Jeroth in the second chrons.

But does he have a real name? And in that case, does the creator have a real name too? I don't know. Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know...a while ago a thought occured to me: maybe I should change my name from Lord Mhoram to Lord Dave...Wink Hey it'd work. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always thought that they named him "Lord Foul" after the betrayal just because he was a Lord and, well...foul. They probably debated for a long time what to call him...

"Lord Sinister?"
"no..."
"Lord Evil?"
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"Lord Diabolical?"
"too melodramatic..."
"Lord Foul?"
"Bingo!"
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL oh dear god thats funny....
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just picture it: Lord Meanie's Bane... With Drool as his faithful side-kick.

Remember when Covenant asks for his name? "I have had many names, it said. To the Lords of Revelstone, I am Lord Meanie the Despiser." Oh, that's scary... Hysterical
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing Foul went by a high sounding respectful name. Lord Aquilian. Lord Trothladine. Lord Sornadrill. Something that would engender trust and acceptance instead of breeding suspicion like Lord Imgonnagetcha, Lord Watchyourbackkevin, Lord Youguysaredoomed. Stuff like that.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or Lord Smeg-head Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Imreallyabadguy, Lord Donttrustmeimevil, Lord Helpmeidobadthings. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you know i often wondered just how Lord Foul could have engraciated himself into the Council of Lords?

he must be quite a silver tongue .. but boy you just dont pick that up from when TC met him .. Sad Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Murrin: on my same thread where I proposed Jeroth, I also noted that the Chrons clearly say the Lord Foul is a term the Council of Lords used meaning: Enemy of the Land, which indicates that he had a different name as a serving Lord of Kevin.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First name: Lord
Surname: Foul

That would of course make him Lord Lord if he ever became one. Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Murrin: on my same thread where I proposed Jeroth, I also noted that the Chrons clearly say the Lord Foul is a term the Council of Lords used meaning: Enemy of the Land, which indicates that he had a different name as a serving Lord of Kevin.


Given that no other formal name beyond that of an openly derogatory nature has been offered within the text of the Chrons. I have to concede Jeroth is the only example that can be applied from the context of the story. Perhaps the 3rd Chrons. will shed some light on the matter. I have enjoyed reading the speculation.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a typo. He was originally Lord Oluf. Over the years, it just became accepted practice to call him Lord Foul. Kind of like how we call it the Red Sea.
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