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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I feel sorry for the US - for all who struggle and suffer under a lack of affordable health care.
Most people here can afford health care. Over 80% had health insurance prior to ACA. For those who can't afford it, we have a plethora of government programs that fund it. And I have dedicated this entire thread to providing market solutions to make health care even more affordable, meaning that coverage could increase while simultaneously lowering the tax burden.

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No it's not. Nothing is free. Your system just forces other people to pay for things you want. I feel sorry for all those who struggle to be a success in your economy, but are weighed down by tax burdens for things that are the individual's responsibility to purchase on their own.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I wouldn't mind paying a bit more tax if it would ensure quality healthcare and education etc for everybody.

Problem here is that there is so much corruption etc. that our tax (not exactly low) isn't being used for its intended purpose in the first place.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The latest attempt to repeal and/or replace the ACA, the Graham-Cassidy Bill, if officially dead. Republicans in the Senate do not have enough votes to pass it by a simply majority before 30 Sept (the rules change after that) and so they will simply abandon it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do the rules change after a certain date?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The usual reason--parliamentary shenanigans. Fiscal years end on 30 September so that is also the typical date when certain in-house rules changes also expire.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So was it a temporary rule change? What I'm trying to understand is why the number of votes required to do something are now different?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most legislative bodies are able to amend their own voting rules. A piece of legislation might require 60% or even 2/3 for passage but if the legislation is rewritten as an amendment to a bill that has already passed then it might require only a simply majority; in the Senate a quorum means 51 members present and if a simply majority of those Senators vote "yea" on something--26 Senators--then it passes.

The most famous recent rule change happened here only a couple of years ago when Harry Reid invoked the "nuclear option" in the Senate (we should call it the Reid Rule in his honor).

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Medicare for all" plan would cost the federal government $32 trillion.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Medicare for All sounds like a great idea except for one small problem: we are only halfway through the Baby Boomers turning 65, a trend which started in 2011 and will continue through 2029. By the time the youngest of them turn 65 and become eligible, the oldest of them will be 83 and the vast majority of them will be on Medicare, which will probably break that system.

Given that the number one stereotypical trait of Baby Boomers is self-centeredness I am afraid that "Medicare for all" will eventually happen so they won't have to spend as much of their own money to pay for their care, even though they are probably the wealthiest generation of people the world has ever seen.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Medicare for All sounds like a great idea except for one small problem: we are only halfway through the Baby Boomers turning 65, a trend which started in 2011 and will continue through 2029. By the time the youngest of them turn 65 and become eligible, the oldest of them will be 83 and the vast majority of them will be on Medicare, which will probably break that system.

Given that the number one stereotypical trait of Baby Boomers is self-centeredness I am afraid that "Medicare for all" will eventually happen so they won't have to spend as much of their own money to pay for their care, even though they are probably the wealthiest generation of people the world has ever seen.


Maybe, but get put in a nursing home and watch your savings dry up like nothing you've ever seen ($9k a month). And if Medicare does the paying they will seize your assets to offset costs if any exist (house, savings, land, etc.)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will never go into a nursing home. If my options are 1) be put into a nursing home or 2) die then I am going to go out in style.
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