High Lord Elena

[peter]

....and the 'raising Kevin' one palpably so at the time. If you'd passed by my house as I read those words you'd have heard an anguished "Noooooo!" coming from it.
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....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'

We are the Bloodguard

[IrrationalSanity]

[Cord Hurn]

[Savor Dam]

Aye, but often great leaders accomplish through facilitating and coordinating the combined actions of others, not through individual effort.
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Love prevails.
~ Tracie Mckinney-Hammon

Have patience with everything unresolved in your heart and to try to love the questions themselves as if they were locked rooms or books written in a very foreign language. Don't search for the answers, which could not be given to you now, because you would not be able to live them. And the point is, to live everything. Live the questions now. Perhaps then, someday far in the future, you will gradually, without even noticing it, live your way into the answer.
~ Rainier Maria Rilke

[bikebryan]

She resurrected the dead without anybody's help. Whether you consider that a great thing that she did or not is debatable.

[Avatar]

Well, it was great. How good it was may be debatable though...

--A
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[peter]

The story arc would have been different without it.
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....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'

We are the Bloodguard

[Savor Dam]

I am not sure about the assertion that she did so without anybody's help. Amok, Covenant, and the Haruchai all had a role in getting her past the obstacles Damelon and other Old Lords set to keep the Earthblood safe from those not ready to quaff it. None had the knowledge to understand what they did.

Elena's drinking the Earthblood and the result of her command is probably one of the most far-reaching acts in the entire Chronicles story arc. It sets up the necessary conditions for the final book of the First Chrons...and nothing in the subsequent Second Chrons and Last Chrons can take place without this key moment.

At the time when this scene takes place, the events in the woodland below are essentially resolving the Illearth War in favor of the Lords. While Foul still had Ravers, Stone, and cannon-fodder races, only what takes place in Earthroot hands him the breaking of a fundamental Law and the compelled service of the shades of first Kevin, and then Elena.

Oh, wait, he gets more - the Staff of Law, to be wielded by dead Elena until the situation could be manipulated so that Covenant destroyed the Staff. Yes, even that (which felt like a triumph in the moment) turned out to conduce to Foul's ends. Had Covenant and Foamfollower not surpassed every obstacle and circumstance to attain the partial victory of the First Chrons, Foul would have been undiminished and with all the advantages above. Whether the staff was destroyed or in the hands of his compelled servants raised from Lore-wise dead, he has won. The utter victory he predicted early in Lord Foul's Bane happens on schedule, if not early.

Not to mention what further SRD did with this when Lester pestered him to write sequels.
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Love prevails.
~ Tracie Mckinney-Hammon

Have patience with everything unresolved in your heart and to try to love the questions themselves as if they were locked rooms or books written in a very foreign language. Don't search for the answers, which could not be given to you now, because you would not be able to live them. And the point is, to live everything. Live the questions now. Perhaps then, someday far in the future, you will gradually, without even noticing it, live your way into the answer.
~ Rainier Maria Rilke

[Horrim Carabal]

I've always loved the scene where Covenant destroys the Staff. I don't have my books handy but if someone can quote it here I'd love to read it again.

The whole thing just feels so momentous - you know this is a key part of the entire story, and it ends up bringing about the entire Second Chronicles with the Sunbane being made possible.

Foul must have been laughing in the Creche...

[wayfriend]

Certainly it is a pivotal moment for the first Chronicles as well, because through this act Covenant finally sees a way to use his power to fight Foul. The climax to the series becomes possible here. The positions of Bannor and Foamfollower after they are released provide a psychological impetus, but the destruction of the Staff provides a pragmatic one.

[peter]

Where did it happen again - under Melenkurian Skyweir or at the Collosus?
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....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'

We are the Bloodguard

[wayfriend]

Colossus. That's a Covenant FAIL - you get trouted, I am afraid.

[Savor Dam]

He can hardly be blamed...he wasn't subjected to the Sweet covers of the 1st Chrons.

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Love prevails.
~ Tracie Mckinney-Hammon

Have patience with everything unresolved in your heart and to try to love the questions themselves as if they were locked rooms or books written in a very foreign language. Don't search for the answers, which could not be given to you now, because you would not be able to live them. And the point is, to live everything. Live the questions now. Perhaps then, someday far in the future, you will gradually, without even noticing it, live your way into the answer.
~ Rainier Maria Rilke

[peter]

duly stood in the corner with the 'D' cap on!

Yes - you could say the entire course of the Chrons is decided by that single act. ( Hard to get into here without spoilers, but even the third series carries the consequences of this on its back does it not?)
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....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'

We are the Bloodguard

[DrPaul]

I think it is worthwhile to:

(a) re-read the chapters "'Lord Mhoram's Victory'" and "Colossus" together; and

(b) trace the ways in which the various acts of resistance of Covenant, Triock, Whane and Lal, the Forestal, etc., in one location, and of Mhoram, the Waynhim, Borillar, Drinny, etc., at the other, synergised to bring about two significant breakthroughs for the defenders of the Land at a crucial moment; and

(c) consider what else was possible that could have produced a better outcome under the circumstances (remembering that samadhi Satansfist had Mhoram and Revelstone just about cooked, and Dead Elena had Covenant, Bannor and Foamfollower in a similar plight).

[peter]

Now that is a well thought out bit of homework!
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....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'

We are the Bloodguard

[wayfriend]

Too true, Rune.

[Innominate Theurgist]

[wayfriend]

[peter]

(Carry this on someone please; to a Chrons lover tis a thing of beauty!)
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....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'

We are the Bloodguard