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do you own a gun?
no, I do not and never will own a gun
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I do not own a gun now, but have no problem getting one in the future
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yes, I do own a gun, and maybe more than one
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah...and an inopportune battery failure could be bad news indeed...

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the left can't outright ban guns. so they will set up straw men (you can buy guns wholesale with no checks at gun shows or online) and erode our rights bit by bit. eventually making the purchase of guns so expensive (my guess is mandatory insurance) that only the rich will have guns, or they will hire bodyguards to carry them.

this will continue to have no impact on criminals.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the left can't outright ban guns. so they will set up straw men (you can buy guns wholesale with no checks at gun shows or online) and erode our rights bit by bit. eventually making the purchase of guns so expensive (my guess is mandatory insurance) that only the rich will have guns, or they will hire bodyguards to carry them.

this will continue to have no impact on criminals.


The governor of the U. S. Northern Mariana Islands thinks that is a good idea, Sarge--they just imposed a $1,000 tax on guns earlier this month.

Seatlle's $25 tax on guns, as well as its $.02 to $.05 tax per round of ammunition tax, went into effect on 1 Jan of this year.

Meanwhile, someone wanting to buy a cheap gun from the back of a truck some guy has parked in an alley can do so for probably $50 to $250, no questions asked, cash only.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I still will not trust such a device, as tech fails.


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Yeah...and an inopportune battery failure could be bad news indeed...

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You guys trust tech every day of your lives and with your lives. You do realize that right? You put an explosive device (phones) next to you ear to speak to others every day. You probably drive cars that have technology in them that if it fails your car goes out of control. You put items into a radiation device to heat your food and trust that you wont be killed by that radiation. I could go on and on....

I think for me, the biggest thing would be what Cail brought up. Since the biometric readers are picking up your fingerprint, if you are shaking (adrenaline) and sweaty, or just have a dirty print, the reader might not pick up your print. That is really the only issue I would probably have with one. I could also see battery being an issue... what if you forgot to change it? Maybe the technology will eventually be better and more trustworthy in an emergency moment.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahaha, yes, in a sense we entrust our lives to it all the time. But there's clearly a psychological difference between trusting your cars software not to fail, and trusting that something will always allow you to use your gun if you need to.

I could talk about the years of testing and practical application that goes into making the car more reliable seeming, which must play a part. Or maybe it's an irrational prejudice.

That said, car tech failing may not be fatal in every circumstance. It's just as likely to fail in non-threatening ways, whereas being unable to access your firearm under threat is a lot worse than your car not starting in the morning. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hashi - I have been saying for some time. the left will tax guns or force insurance on owners. another thing (self protection) that is only for the rich. remember when the left had problems with that?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That mindset is a holdover from before some on The Left realized that they could game the system and/or skew the playing field in their favor like some on The Right were doing. There is no more "Left" or "Right" in politics, only "how can I benefit from this?".
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A sadly accurate assessment I fear.

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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2016 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Social Security Administration is thinking of making the FBI aware of people who receive disability benefits and who also suffer from mental disorders, in an effort to restrict the ability of those people from being able to purchase guns. Now, on the one hand this makes sense, given that the one factor all the "mass shootings" in the last few years have had is "the suspect had a history of mental problems and/or substance abuse". On the other hand, there is no way this doesn't violate HIPPA, a Federal law which issues stiff penalties and fines for releasing (or even accessing) protected medical data about individual people.

This is an Executive-only situation, though, so a different President can reverse this decision.

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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't argue that people with mental disorders shouldn't be disqualified.

But isn't that the sort of thing that should come up in a background check anyway?

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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That also is an unintended consequence of HIPPA--even for a background check you normally are not allowed to get medical information. Technically, even checking to see if someone got admitted into an emergency room or checked into a hospital could violate HIPPA.
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think psychological information would be critical in making that check...otherwise...

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Stephanie Soechtig, the producer behind Katie Couric's "Under the Gun" documentary, violated Federal gun laws in the process of filming the documentary. Well, okay--she didn't directly violate them herself; rather, she got someone working for her to violate those laws...so she is likely guilty of conspiracy to violate Federal gun laws.

This is on top of Ms. Couric herself admitting that video clips of gun owners were edited in such a way as to paint the gun owners is a negative light.

When you are so foaming-at-the-mouth rabid to take away everyone's right to own guns that you violate the very laws you want to make it more difficult to buy guns, then perhaps you should realize that you have gone too far and that now might be a good time to sit down, be quiet, and take a breather.

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Not gonna happen. It's like the folks who faked the footage about planned parenthood or the ACLU stuff. In their minds, the ends justify the means. Always a dangerous proposition.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that the Second Amendment does not cover concealed carry.

Bullshit. Yes, it does. Keep carrying your concealed guns in public in spite of this ruling, presuming you are already doing so.

Incidentally, didn't same-sex marriage become the law of the land because of the condition under which States must recognize each other's licenses with full faith? By the same logic, then, obtaining a concealed carry permit here in Texas means that you must be allowed to conceal carry in every other State, as well.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Incidentally, didn't same-sex marriage become the law of the land because of the condition under which States must recognize each other's licenses with full faith? By the same logic, then, obtaining a concealed carry permit here in Texas means that you must be allowed to conceal carry in every other State, as well.

I would think so -- but not if the Texas law (or another like it) is found to be unconstitutional, which is what the 9th Circuit said. Then the issue ought to get booted to the Supremes. Which is what I expect will happen here directly.
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It takes a special kind of fool to think that "keep and bear" doesn't cover carry.
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It goes to the original intent of the amendment, doesn't it?

Yeah, yeah, I know -- "original intent" isn't the be-all and end-all of Constitutional interpretation.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even under original intent it was clear that the Founders were about private firearm ownership.

This is like the abortion issue for conservatives. Liberals need to just get over the fact that the Second Amendment exists and stop fighting it.
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I would think so -- but not if the Texas law (or another like it) is found to be unconstitutional, which is what the 9th Circuit said. Then the issue ought to get booted to the Supremes. Which is what I expect will happen here directly.


No, this ruling is about a California case and had nothing to do with Texas whatsoever.

I still advise people to conceal carry if they have a State-issued license to do so. What are law enforcement agencies going to do, frisk everyone at all times? No, of course not--they have real crimes they need to be investigating.

Don't like conceal carry? Fine--let gun owners engage in open carry, that way you know who is armed.

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