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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:03 pm    Post subject: Official 2020 Presidential Prognostication Thread Reply with quote

Apparently I was incorrect. I thought 2 January 2019 would mark the unofficial beginning of the 2020 Presidential race but some Democratic organizers are already courting Robert Francis O'Rourke--colloquially referred to as Beto even though he is not Hispanic at all--as their number one choice for the ticket in 2020 based on his fundraising numbers from his campaign against Ted Cruz. His name is already on short lists alongside Bernard Sanders and Joe Biden, both of whom are in their 70s (which would work against them in an actual campaign) and they are comparing him to Barack Obama and Robert Kennedy.

If Robert runs, he would easily defeat other younger candidate hopefuls such as Kamala Harris and Cory Booker.

Still...the most shocking thing so far is that the next election cycle has already begun. *yeesh*

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Democrat nominee will be Michelle Obama.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Large field for the Dems this time out. M.O. probably won't run, but if she does, she'll run away with it.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Democrat nominee will be Michelle Obama.


If that were the case they would already be announcing it--that is not a card one hold's closely to one's chest.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dam the circus is starting early.
Just one question..

How many clowns will be in the troupe?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far, about 6 or 7 on the Democratic side but only one on the Republican side. The third parties won't announce until an appropriate time and will account for about 4 or 5 more.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GOP: Trump, though I bet (and hope) that he's primaried. Assuming he is, not only will he win the primary, it'll make him stronger in the general.

DEMS: Delaney, Booker, Harris, Sanders, Warren, Biden, Clinton, O'Rourke. I expect at least 4-6 more.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me apply for the job..

I will propose that no person, media outlet or anything can not provide, declare
or accept money for a political office until the year of the election.
No one or party can campaign before the year of election.
No primaries can not be held in any state before the year of election.

That all parties that receive money for persons or parties will have a 10% tax
levied on their money to be paid before the funds can be used for the campaign.
All political money remaining after the election must be turned over to the government.

Violation will mandate a 40 year prison term and forfeit of all funds or fines in case of others involvements.

Then of course then the standard lies that are told.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Large field for the Dems this time out. M.O. probably won't run, but if she does, she'll run away with it.


💯 percent 👍

She would own utterly own it. I think shes the only one who would, not Booker, not Sanders, not Delaney etc. She would definitely be the Republicans worst nightmare.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cail wrote:
Large field for the Dems this time out. M.O. probably won't run, but if she does, she'll run away with it.


She would definitely be the Republicans worst nightmare.
Nope. She'd guaranty a Trump victory. Very few people outside of the far left have any love for the aristocratic Obamas. People would turn out in droves to vote against her, same way people did with Hillary.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Large field for the Dems this time out. M.O. probably won't run, but if she does, she'll run away with it.


She would definitely be the Republicans worst nightmare.
Nope. She'd guaranty a Trump victory. Very few people outside of the far left have any love for the aristocratic Obamas. People would turn out in droves to vote against her, same way people did with Hillary.
Hmmm.

You'd know far better than I, Cail - but from where I'm sitting, people mainly seemed to turn out in droves against Hillary because she was seen to be both crooked, patronising, hypocritical and overweeningly arrogant, no? I don't think any of those terms could readily be applied to Michelle - at the moment, at least.

I don't expect MO to run at all - she doesn't strike me as the "gain power at any cost" type. But if she did and got the nomination, IMV she'd be the Dem candidate least likely to guarantee a Trump 2nd term victory. She'd still lose, though.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmm.. I wonder 🤷‍♀️ .. it maybe as you say .. but in my remote view, shes eminently likeable, resoundingly intelligent .. and beautifully articulate. All the things Trump isnt. Razz

But its moot if shes not running. Sadly theres no one else Ive seen capable of rallying popular support.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mmm.. I wonder 🤷‍♀️ .. it maybe as you say .. but in my remote view, shes eminently likeable, resoundingly intelligent .. and beautifully articulate. All the things Trump isnt. Razz

But its moot if shes not running. Sadly theres no one else Ive seen capable of rallying popular support.


How about Condi Rice?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive always liked Condoleezza Rice.. shes intelligent and articulate and broadly respected. I had forgotten there were good alternative Republicans 😉
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Condolezza Rice is probably more qualified to be President than any of the
past candidates in the past 12 years.
Doctors degree.
Provost of Stanford University.
United States National Security Advisor
United States Secretary of State

She has the stuff to be President. With her expertise she could make Congress
follow her plan. (She would subject them to her piano recitals Razz )

I would campaign for her and for years thought she would be a good choice.

I believe she could outpoint Trump during the 2019 primaries.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmm.. excellent points UrDead and I agree .. shed be a viable alternative 👌
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michelle Obama would run away with the Democratic nomination and she would probably defeat Trump. That being said, she won't run because I don't think she wants that much of a spotlight on her family any more.

Ms. Rice won't run for a slightly different reason--she would probably find today's political climate far too hostile for her liking.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely and insightful .. I think your right Hashi 👌
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ms. Rice won't run for a slightly different reason--she would probably find today's political climate far too hostile for her liking.
More importantly, she's not a politician, and would be wholly unsuited for the campaign process. She's also not nearly conservative enough for the GOP base.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmm.. thats sadly true .. she isnt as conservative.
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