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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:22 am    Post subject: anyone remember the griffin? Reply with quote

At the battle of Soaring Woodhelivin, there was a griffin, do you remember?

If not mistaken, wasn't that the first and last flying beast in the Chronicles?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+JMJ+

1) Yes.

2) Unless a free-floating, full-torso, vaporous apparition counts, then "yes".
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's one thread about griffins here. Including Donaldson's comments on the subject.

Why were the griffin absent in TPTP?.

This should probably have been posted in the First and Second Chronicles forum.

(This is help, not criticism.)
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

High Lord Kevin Landwaster gave the First Ward to the Giants.
Didn't he give the Seventh Ward to the Bloodguard!
The Elohim were also given a Ward, Weird or Wyrd.

The Griffin was likely Drool Rockworm and Lord Foul's plan to stop the Defender's finding a Ward, ie the destruction of Soaring Woodhelven.

The Second Ward might have been given to the Ramen before thier expulsion from the Land, and hidden in the Catacombs by brave Kelenbrahbanal.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, Kevin did not give wards to either the Bloodguard or Elohim. And the 7th was Spoiler:
Amok
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spoiler:
How so?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That is covered in The Illearth War.

Nor do I believe Kelenbrahbanal was involved in the presence of the Second Ward in the Mount Thunder catacombs. Nowhere do we see the Ranyhyn venturing into subterranean spaces.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's because you lack insight, SD.

Savor Dam wrote:
Nor do I believe Kelenbrahbanal was involved in the presence of the Second Ward in the Mount Thunder catacombs. Nowhere do we see the Ranyhyn venturing into subterranean spaces.


Spoiler:
whatever
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kelenbhrabanal (note the spelling), died before there were Ramen. The Ramen fought alongside Kevin. When he knew he couldn't win, Kevin came up with the whole plan of the Wards. So Kelenbhrabanal was dead before there were Wards.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bahgoon_The_Unbearabl wrote:
At the battle of Soaring Woodhelivin, there was a griffin, do you remember?

If not mistaken, wasn't that the first and last flying beast in the Chronicles?


Hello Bahgoon_The_Unbearabl, and a warm welcome to Kevinswatch.
Sorry for the argy-bargy, sometimes it can be like pulling teeth around here.

Anyway, do you remember the giraffe given to Thomas Covenant outside Revelstone at the dawn of the quest for the Staff of Law? It too had wings.
Which demonstrates that Stephen Donaldson has a keen sense of humour.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lose track of whether y'all are being funny or not...

Anyway, Lord Foul's army in TIW had griffins with it when it marched on the Lords.

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