TC Musings, Q & A, Dissecting Fatal Revenant

danlo · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 4:28 pm Post subject:

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SoulQuest1970 · Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:40 pm Post subject:

Thanks and oops! I was in a hurry and saw Announcement and didn't read the subject. I will say hello in the right place next time. Smile

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Edelaith · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:11 am Post subject:

Hello all, Edelaith here. I'm brand new to this forum.
I thought I'd place my first questions here.

We know the Ritual of Desecration wrought by High Lord Kevin was a pretty bad thing. The Old Lords and all their works perished. The Desolation of the Land came about.
What form exactly did the Ritual take? Was it a giant fire, an outgrowth of what Trell was attempting? Or was it more like a dark magic that struck down everything living, so that people and trees alike just withered and died on the spot? Or did it take another form?

Why did Andelain, the Forests, and the physical structure of Revelstone survive the Ritual? (I realize other areas were destroyed or permanently ruined, although I do not know what they were.)

KATIE · Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:24 pm Post subject:

Welcom Edelaith

I believe that Andelain survived because of the
concentrated amout of earth power there.

JemCheeta · Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:46 pm Post subject:

Equally, I assume Revelstone survived because it's just that good.

Also, anyone who would know what the Ritual was like, looked like, or did exactly.... well, they'd be dead. I guess someone should have asked dead Kevin.
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Warmark · Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:51 pm Post subject:

i assumed the RoD would be differnet for each desicrator
for instance trell he wasa gravlingas so used fire etc
i think kevin mabye burned the whole Land with a huge ball of Lords Fire
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JemCheeta · Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:03 pm Post subject:

That sounds possible. But it was also combined with Lord Foul's power...
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Cord Gary · Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:38 pm Post subject:

I always envisioned the Ritual as something not unlike a nuclear explosion (minus the radiation) -- just a complete unleashing of the most destructive capabilities of nature in a single violent instant.

But that's just me. Smile

ur-vile loremaster · Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 12:40 pm Post subject:

It might resemble the blastwave unleashed when the One Ring is destroyed in LOTR: TROTK: a deep bass note and creatures destroyed instantly on impact.
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danlo · Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:21 pm Post subject:

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Pitchbrew · Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:58 am Post subject: The reason Covenant is so PO'ed

His anger is the outlet for his frustration, he is paying the price of leprosy. Self hatred the only way that he can realize this and the only to fight this is through anger. Anger first at himself, and then at the disease. If it were simply about Foul, his anger would not have been powerful at all. In LFB when the two first met Covenant wasn't angry at Foul at first, he was simply despairing, but Foul called him a groveler and that changed his attitude, and his reason for hating Foul is because, as he told Linden in TWL Foul laughs at lepers. But the root of Covenants anger is because of the leprosy. As I said it is direct and indirect. He hates himself for having it and he hates the disease because he has it. The reason he hates himself is beacuse of the hurt that is caused to his marriage which separated him from his wife. Even though he eventually got with linden his love was to joan. and his sacrifice as well. That was what made it possible to smile for joan because he didn't want to hurt her again, and he felt that at last he was making atonement for the crime of leprosy. By giving himself away for her. Which Ironically is the same action he does for the land and ironically again Joan seems to be in the same shape as the land......really makes you think doesn't it?

dlbpharmd · Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:06 am Post subject:

I just want to say that it's great to see so much new interest in this forum again.
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The Somberlain · Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:50 pm Post subject:

Do we ever see Linden or Covenant reading anything in the Land?

I'm mildly curious as to whether they write in English. I remember when they encounter Llaura after the Battle of Soaring Woodhelven, Covenant suggests that she writes down the message... which made me wonder if, if she had been able to write, would he have been able to read it?
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Warmark · Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:36 pm Post subject:

Just a small thing i noticed do my reread in the Chapter containing the Test of Truth for TC, Baradakas refers to the 'Staff of Life' which was cut from the One Tree.

Is this a mistake on SRD's part or does he call it that for a reason?
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drew · Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:08 am Post subject:

He probebly meant from the One Forest. (being the origional Land)
It's doubtfull the woodhelvenes in that time had any idea what-or where- the onetree was.
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Warmark · Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:15 pm Post subject:

Another thing i noticed was that when TC and FF arrive at Revelstone Prothall is said to be ' in the North ' or something to that effect.

Wonder where he was? Isnt it said there is very little to the North. Therw are no Woodhellvin or Stonedowns north of Revelstone.
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Avatar · Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject:

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DukkhaWaynhim · Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:26 pm Post subject:

At the beginning of TIW, I think it was Mhoram that told Covenant that Prothall left his High Lordship almost before he returned to Lord's Keep from the Quest for the Staff of Law, and went off to become Unfettered, off to the North, which was where he hailed from. I assumed at the time that meant he was from Giant Woods or further north off the map in First Chronicles, but now I wonder if they only meant the craggy shepherding land north of Revelstone that was mentioned elsewhere.

Now, about the bitter cold that Cov and Linden encountered in the north trying to get back to Revelstone in 2nd Chrons, was that just the natural winter weather pattern for being that far north, or was this an over-reaction to the Sunbane and the Arghule, meaning that the North wasn't supposed to be as Arctic as what they encountered? Just trying to figure out if Prothall was from an Arctic region, or merely on the cooler side of temperate?

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