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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feel free to point out any logical or factual error in my previous post.

I won't hold my breath...

My opinion (NB "opinion", not "fact") remains that you really don't like it when what you post is examined in any depth.

The reason for that opinion (NB "opinion", not "fact") is that you instantly cry that you've been subject to some ad hominem attack, rather than pointing out any factual and/or logical errors in what others have posted in direct response to you, with direct reference to your own words.

And no, given your long track record, I don't expect this to change. It apparently is fated to eternally be what it is...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why should he point out any "factual and/or logical errors in what others have posted in direct response to you" if it uses an ad hominem, which is by definition a fallacious form of argument?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In this case, because - as far as my post was concerned - there was no ad hominem.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So is it the electorates fault for not holding them accountable? Very Happy

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Republicans have the next two years to groom a candidate for presidency. They could be working at winning the House.

They could think about not running two old white men.

They could work at helping the American people.

The first step? Telling Trump loudly to just admit he's lost. Trump lost to a corpse and a communist. That's on him.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess this is the closest thread to this, although it's not Insanity. I heard several minutes of CNN this evening. It was embarrassing. Like a bunch of 15 year old boys. "Yeah, that sucked." "And all that crap he's doing." "That's garbage." I don't think news programs or networks shouldn't have opinions. But I do think they should have some maturity.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fist - who were they talking about? I haven't watched CNN on purpose in years.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect that the answer to Sarge's question can be deduced from Fist's characterization of the maturity exhibited.

Won't it be nice when every thread isn't about the same malignant personality...and the mass of toadies that enable him?

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They could work at helping the American people.

The first step? Telling Trump loudly to just admit he's lost...That's on him.

Definitely. Nothing in the last two-plus weeks suggests that the results misjudged whether he ought to retain the office.

There are questions about what our course ought to be, but I am eager for a steadier hand on the tiller.

Oh dear. I just mentally cast Trump (ala Bogey) in an adaptation of Queeg in the Caine Mutiny.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The first step? Telling Trump loudly to just admit he's lost...That's on him.

Definitely. Nothing in the last two-plus weeks suggests that the results misjudged whether he ought to retain the office.


It does not matter whether Trump concedes or not--losing an election is losing an election, so unless some miracle occurs then Joe Biden will be sworn in on 21 January 2021 and then no one will ever have to worry about Donald Trump ever again.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hashi - Trump is wasting time. Sign some EO's.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hashi - Trump is wasting time. Sign some EO's.


I concur. This is time to finish filling all those Federal benches that Obama left vacant and issue EOs which, although not technically laws, will have the force of law until Congress can get its shit together and override the EOs with actual laws.

Oh, and pardons--everyone who got touched by Mueller should get a full pardon.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree on pardons. Use them as much as Clinton and Obama did.

His first EO should be telling Congress to send every adult citizen in America 🇺🇸 2 grand. Let Nancy fight that.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I agree that direct economic relief is needed, if he'd issued such an EO prior to the election, it might have shifted matters in his favor and this current post-election shitshow would have been avoided.

Instead, he ranted about the "socialism" of the other party. Ordering direct relief payments now would be the height of irony, nu?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Fist - who were they talking about? I haven't watched CNN on purpose in years.
As SD guessed, it's all about Trump.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SD - With nothing to lose some Republican needs to get on camera and tell Trump to stop with the tantrum and do Covid relief. Think party over Trump.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some Republicans, (notably I think some who won't be running for re-election) have done just that and faced remarkable backlash from those toeing the party line.

The real questions of course are whether this embarrassing denial will help him or hurt him in the future.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What future? He has none politically and the Trump name will drag down anyone running for office.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would hope you're right Sarge, and in normal times I would even agree. But if there's one thing his presidency showed us its that people will support him at his most egregiously false no matter what.

Best thing for the whole system would be for him to run as an independent, but even he must know there's no power in that. (Sanders should do it too, give the fringes somewhere to coalesce and leave the more moderates to do some work for a change.)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both Trump and Sanders are too old for another run. Let's try someone closer to the minimum age?
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