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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A sad day for Sci-Fi.

Rest in peace. And thanks for the great books.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I said in the general thread, I'm reading Consider Phlebas. On page 207 of 429 in the Nook format. Honestly, it's just annoying so far. There's so much that could be happening, and should be. The premise of the book, for example. A Mind manages to crash-land on a Planet of the Dead. Minds in general, what this particular one did, and the planet all seem to be a big deal. Horza is hired to try to go get it. But half through the book, and that's nowhere near what's going on. Everything possiblek but that is happening.
-The ship he's on gets attacked.
-Horza gets away, but is captured by pirates.
-He has to kill one of them to earn a place with them.
-They attack a temple, but get their butts kicked.
-They try to loot a Megaship on an Orbital, but the Megaship crashes into a flying iceberg, among other problems.
-He survives the Megaship, but ends up on an island with NASTY folks.
-He gets away, and goes looking for the leader of the pirates, who is going to a card game.
-The pirate has to quit the game, and Horza spends many pages trying to find, follow, and subdue him.

I mean, sheesh!!! Can we get to the actual premise of the book in the second half??
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL

The Culture is a big place...lots happens. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right?!? Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Fist, it's a big place, it's your first visit, enjoy the tour. Sheesh!!! Are you becoming a grumpy old man?! I read this when I was still teen and thought it was brilliant: the megaships, the Orbital, the Eaters, the Players on the Eve of Destruction. C'monnnn!!!

And there so much more to come in all the other excellent Culture novels: The Player of Games, Use of Weapons, Excession. It'll never be new again, give it the time it deserves.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be 50 in December, so yeah. Very Happy But damn... There's AI, airships four km long, spaceships to dwarf them, space stations to dwarf the spaceships, energies and technologies beyond description... And I get Bugs Bunny in a cauldron with Yosemite Sam making rabbit stew. Laughing But the Orbital just blew up, and they're on their way. Looking for some good stuff now!!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you will enjoy the Affront.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the ship minds myself. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HOLY SHIT!!! FREAKING AMAZON IS MAKING A SERIES OF THE CULTURE BOOKS!!!!!!![color=red]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/color]!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm.

Could be good. A season per book? Would love to see The Player Of Games.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/amazon-is-turning-iain-m-banks-iconic-culture-books-in-1823205900

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooh looks very cool 😎 Big Grin
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't believe it's been more than 7 years since he died!
Also, this is old news too but the dream has died:
Cancelled

In other news.. This forum is still here! Soo happy. I was only ever an infrequent visitor but nice to have a good old-fashioned forum to visit that hasn't been deserted for Slack or Discord.

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Nice to see you around Vasko. Visit more. Very Happy (We have a Discord too. Wink )

Pity about the series, but they would have ruined it anyway so... Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seeing Iain M. Banks' name pop up reminds me that I've had Surface Detail on my kindle for a long time now and I've never gotten around to reading it. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I have it sitting on my shelf as the last of his books I'll ever read..
Been there for aages.. Almost don't want to do it Sad
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It was pretty good actually, but The Hydrogen Sonata was the last IIRC.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can all keep him. Laughing I've never been more disappointed in a book that I finished than that one of his that I read.
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Which one?

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The first book of his that I read was Excession, and I thought that it was really very good. Since then, I have read some others, and I have come to think I stumbled upon his best book first. So I am not surprised at Fists comment - he really is hit-or-miss. (And I think it was Consider Phebas that he read ... I didn't find that to be stellar either.)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wayfriend wrote:
The first book of his that I read was Excession, and I thought that it was really very good. Since then, I have read some others, and I have come to think I stumbled upon his best book first. So I am not surprised at Fists comment - he really is hit-or-miss. (And I think it was Consider Phebas that he read ... I didn't find that to be stellar either.)


I've read a few of his Culture books over the past 18 months or so and would agree that they are quite hit-or-miss.

The ideas and concepts are generally solid-to-inspired, but the execution can be sloppy.

I just finished Use of Weapons recently and it had plenty to recommend it, but the prose itself was often awkward and showed signs of needing further polishing.

I did read that Banks and his agent had an agreement that he would release one book per year - I wonder if this kind of self-imposed schedule saw quality control relegated to a secondary consideration at times ..
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