Holy f*ck, California bans the dictionary....

rusmeister · Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:05 am Post subject:

I'm not sure you guys mean by hardship what I mean by hardship. I'm remembering 1991, the collapse of the Soviet Union, grocery stores with only one kind of baby food (and no other foods at all), delis with chicken's heads and feet (and nothing else), everyone having their personal goods laid out for sale on some newspapers, or doing barter to get something - anything - because it was impossible to buy it. Where the avg life span of men dropped to from 70 to 59. And lots more. On a national scale.

On your example, Vraith, you still learn. The teenager (or adult) who thinks the world owes him a living finds out the harsh way that it does not. (Which happened to me, too, btw)
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Avatar · Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:32 pm Post subject:

Suffering builds character is my own view. Laughing

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Cail · Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:03 pm Post subject:

ur-bane · Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:38 pm Post subject:

Only if you don't let it defeat you.
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Avatar · Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:13 am Post subject:

Well, I could argue that the occasional defeat does the same thing...teaches you to deal with disappointment.

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ur-bane · Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:08 pm Post subject:

Good point... Cool

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"Hey, dad," croaked the vulture, "what are you eating?"
"Carrion, my wayward son."
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Avatar · Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:05 pm Post subject:

Hahaha. Unless you meant defeat as in "I'm not gonna try anymore." That's certainly no good.

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Vraith · Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:09 pm Post subject:

Don't think so, nope, not as a general rule.
Suffering or hardship or defeat can teach, but only in restricted contexts.
It's just like weightlifting: it can make you stronger, but if you're working beyond certain limits [fractions of healthy body weight, depending on particular muscle group are a good rule of thumb], or outside certain alignments, you're trading muscle strength gains for damage/destruction in other areas...and the strength drains away over time, while the damage/destruction is permanent.
Mind, character, personality, are no different.
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