Hawking warns of the dangers of AI

Damelon · Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:19 pm Post subject:

Just an observation, but Professor Hawking has become quite a pessimist in his old age. Didn't he also say that we shouldn't be actively seeking to contact extraterrestrial life: That we find is libel to be far more advanced than us and we risk them coming to squash us.
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Hashi Lebwohl · Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:17 pm Post subject:

We will have much to fear from non-terrestrial species which have attained technology sufficient to reach us physically only if they land here. History teaches us, even when interacting only with ourselves, that when societies A and B interact the one who wins is the one with more advanced tech. If we meet them out there, even if only at/near Mars, then the game changes.
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Vraith · Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:17 pm Post subject:

Vraith · Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:42 pm Post subject:

Yet another person that thinks we're on the road to upload and/or cyborg stuff. A slightly different take/detail in there:

phys.org/news/2015-04-personality-sight-inventor.html
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Zarathustra · Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 7:31 pm Post subject:

[url=fortune.com/2015/03/05/forget-the-naysayers-robots-pose-no-threat-to-humanity-these-experts-say/]Scientists who aren't worried about robots/AI[/url]
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Vraith · Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:21 pm Post subject:

This isn't exactly on topic. But it's reasonably close.
It also connects, to greater or lesser extent, with several other [fairly] recent posts/lines of discussion in a fair number of threads...memes, AI, creativity the future of jobs/work.
It's not a deep thing, just some interest piquing things.

A teaser quote:

peter · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:23 am Post subject:

Was there meant to be a link there V? I don't seem to have one. Confused

As an (on topic) aside ( Laughing

) I'm finding that my tablet,which is much more up to date than my laptop, has exactly the problem Hawking encountered with his voice box. Sometimes it just doesn't like to be 'overridden' when it decides I've spelt a word wrong or whatever, and I find that when I make the post it has reverted to its version rather than accepting mine!
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Vraith · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:12 pm Post subject:

Vraith · Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:45 pm Post subject:

Ok...this is weird link, cuz it's from Reason, which is mostly known for politics-related, especially Libertarian.
It's also half about fiction and half about opinion/speculation and half about science.
And it's a field/topic I SHOULD have thought of, but didn't.
And it both cracks me up...yet deserves some thought. [for implications it contains, and some beyond the scope.]
It could belong at the Onion, an SF convention, or a Future-tech/ethics conference, with some tweaks.

reason.com/blog/2015/08/07/the-menace-of-artificial-stupidity
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Sig-man, Libtard, Stupid piece of shit. change your text color to brown. Mr. Reliable, bullshit-slinging liarFucker-user.

the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.

Fist and Faith · Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:55 pm Post subject:

I only looked at the first couple paragraphs so far. However, I read the book he's talking about, Avogadro Corp, and the other three books in the series. The AI in AC has an interesting origin, and is not what we usually get in books and movies.

The AI in the second book has, again, an interesting origin, different from the first.

The series resolution is pretty darned cool, IMO. As I mentioned elsewhere, this is your kind of story, Hashi. If you read scifi, that is.
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peter · Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:38 am Post subject:

It's a chilling thought that our understandings of psychology, neurology and computing could combine to produce algorithms of mass, or even individual persuasive power as to be virtually mind controlling. Or is that already the case........ Shocked

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Vraith · Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:59 pm Post subject:

Hashi Lebwohl · Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:08 pm Post subject:

Human stupidity is significantly more dangerous than artificial intelligence.
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Vraith · Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:20 pm Post subject:

peter · Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:21 pm Post subject:

Indeed the [risk is that the] one may lead to the other. Laughing

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Vraith · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:03 pm Post subject:

Here's a guy not afraid of AI necessarily taking over.
More too it than that, about machine learning then, now, and going forward, and I'll probably pick it up.

Excerpts from an article, then link to it:

Avatar · Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:08 am Post subject:

Well, AI is one big step closer:

kevinswatch.ihugny.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1010255#1010255

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Cord Hurn · Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:51 am Post subject:

If Artificial Intelligence can produce the finest craft beer ever made, then I say BRING IT ON!!! Cheers

I'll worry about AI taking over the world later!

Fist and Faith · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:54 am Post subject:

I also missed your post, Av.

I don't know anything about Go, but here's a thought based only on what I just read.

AlphaGo did what it did because it is not human. That is, with 30,000,000 moves programmed into it, it played thousands and thousands of games with itself. People can't do that. It's not a matter of intuition or imagination that made it able to do that. It's a matter of processing power. So maybe "brute force", processing power, plays a greater role in Go than they're saying it does. Maybe the best players are the ones who can calculate things without realizing that's what they're doing. Kind of like some people can multiply huge numbers in their heads, or tell you what day of the week April 3, 6,543 BC fell on.

What gave AlphaGo this "intuition" other than the processing power that allowed it to experience so much of the game?
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Hashi Lebwohl · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:45 pm Post subject: