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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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that whenever there is fun, there is always Coca-Cola.


Apparently the mythical land of Australia agrees with you.

Now with MORE DIDGERIDOO!


that was awesome. must find that movie now.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liberals sign petition to impose 10% 'male privilege' tax.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, for pity's sake--not Infowars, please. Alex Jones is a fringe nut-case and no one should should take anything he says seriously.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know anything about Alex Jones. It the article was written by Paul Watson, so reading it doesn't require anyone to take Jones seriously. And included video proof of its claims. Are you saying that it's fake?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, there probably are people out there who would be happy with such a tax. Then again, there are people out there who, in some of those tongue-in-cheek "man on the street" interviews by folks like Jimmy Kimmel, who don't know anything at all or make up things on the spur of the moment to sound like they know what is going on in the world.

I don't care about the author. The fact that the story is from Infowars is enough for me to discount it completely. Infowars is in the same category as the National Enquirer or the Weekly World News--hacks or rags with only the slimmest approximation of journalistic integrity. I know that Drudge likes to link stories from Infowars from time to time (which is probably how you found it) but Drudge really does itself a disservice by doing so.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After my opening post, I meant to continue this thread with this little nugget:

Bernie Sanders wrote:

You don't necessarily need a choice of 23 underarm spray deodorants or of 18 different pairs of sneakers when children are hungry in this country.


People have been calling Trump a sideshow or circus (or worse), but this is some seriously crazy BS ... as if increased choices of the free market (along with falling prices for those choices) are causing hunger in America. The people who have jobs making those things have children, too. What's the alternative? Take the money away from deodorant companies and give it to poor children??

Bernie needs to take a good look at Venezuela ...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zarathustra wrote:
After my opening post, I meant to continue this thread with this little nugget:

Bernie Sanders wrote:

You don't necessarily need a choice of 23 underarm spray deodorants or of 18 different pairs of sneakers when children are hungry in this country.


People have been calling Trump a sideshow or circus (or worse), but this is some seriously crazy BS ... as if increased choices of the free market (along with falling prices for those choices) are causing hunger in America. The people who have jobs making those things have children, too. What's the alternative? Take the money away from deodorant companies and give it to poor children??

Bernie needs to take a good look at Venezuela ...
Yeah... funny how the "nut jobs" in both primaries seem to have the most popular support... it's almost like the masses have gone mad!

To be clear, I do not like Sanders at all and your comparison to Trump does seem apt to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Free market...pfft. Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In defense of Mr. Sanders he is correct in that we don't need underarm spray deodorant. It may sometime be a little unpleasant without it but we wouldn't die without it.

Still...he is trying to draw connections between choices in a free market and hunger and the two things are not related. If Bernie wants the free market to do something about hunger then he should campaign to get the laws about food waste updated so that supermarkets and restaurants have an incentive to have their extra food be donated to food pantries or given to shelters.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, stuff like that just annoys me. It's such an easy and minor fix that could make an appreciable difference. But god forbid the law and common sense should have any intersection...

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chaka Fattah, Democrat representative from Philadelphia, has been [url=america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/7/29/congressman-fattah-charged-with-racketeering.html]indicted on 29 counts of racketeering, bribery, mail fraud, bank fraud, and money laundering[/url]. These charges go back to 2007 so I guess the investigation simply took a long time to conclude. Anyway, if you have to commit crimes in order to get elected to an office (or, in this case, fail to get elected--he didn't become mayor of Philadelphia) then you don't deserve to be in any political office. Ever.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree, but suppose you have to be found guilty first though. This is only the charges.

Surely if he is found guilty he will have to resign?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe, maybe not. You might be surprised at what crimes some current Members of Congress have committed over the years yet they retain their seats. Typically, as long as it isn't something violent they usually get a pass. Of course, most Members of Congress are millionaires (no, really) so they can buy a lot more justice than the average citizen can.

It is all well and good for Mr. Sanders to make a plea to end institutional racism in the United States (even though it doesn't really exist any more) but is he going to urge the Congressional Black Caucus to end its institutional racism? It defines membership by skin color, which is the very textbook definition of "racism".

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's really down to matters of definition and perception isn't it? I agree that there isn't really "institutional racism" per se, because there is no legal enforcement or requirement or whatever anymore, unlike during segregation.

However, there is no question that there is still racism, (perhaps even often subconscious or residually systemic) and that it affects people.

I can see why you suggest that technically, this caucus is institutionally racist. Because by proper definitions, that's ironically exactly what it is.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More craziness from Sanders:
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"What this campaign is doing is sending a loud and clear message to the billionaire class: And that is that their greed is destroying the United States of America…This country belongs to all of us—and not just a handful of billionaires."


How are billionaires destroying America? By creating too many jobs? By creating too many products people want to buy (like deodorant)?

Take a close look at societies which produce no billionaires, and tell me which you'd rather live in. Rolling Eyes Dems only seem to view the rich as an endless supply of money to buy votes from less wealthy people. Why don't they see that money as a resource in the private sector? Do they not recognize the value of having rich people invest their money in our economy?

Even more insane: 10s of 1000s of people seem to have no problem with an avowed socialist. They'd even elect him president! I realize that looting the rich for your own personal gain can be a popular idea to, well, looters, but have we really become that desperate in the world's richest country that looting is now mainstream?? The Dems are succeeding at transforming the American Dream into taking from producers to give to non-producers (whereas [url=reason.com/archives/2015/08/10/how-to-fix-the-economy-and-income-inequa/]immigrants are starting businesses at a greater rate than native born Americans[/url]). Surely we can do better than hoping for government handouts. What has become of us? Liberal propaganda is sapping the spirit of this country, robbing people of everything that made us great. They don't want us to be great. They want us to be "equal."
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing wrong with some judicious socialism in a democracy. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fact that Mr. Sanders is a Member of the Senate (incidentally, here a quick-and-dirty run-down of his tenure in the House and Senate) means that he makes [url=library.clerk.house.gov/reference-files/113_20130124_Salary.pdf]at least $174,000 per year[/url] so I don't think he has much in common with most of the people to whom he is speaking, at least from a financial point of view. If he is so concerned with making sure that people who have less get a little more then why doesn't he take half his pay and donate it? Surely he can live on $87,000 per year, especially since their children are adults.

The Democrats may have to go with Sanders if Clinton gets shut down due to her e-mail problems even if Biden gets fronted by Obama (which probably won't happen). Right or wrong, his message resonates with the core of Democrat voters--people who are poor and live in big cities.

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I'll vote for a politician who proposes minimum wage for politicians. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would vote for someone who advocates strict term limits for politicians--you get 12 years in some combination of House, Senate, Vice-President, and/or President and then you are out for life plus you have a lifetime ban on lobbying or peddling influence. No politician is ever going to deny themselves access to the gravy train, though.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would vote for someone who advocates strict term limits for politicians--you get 12 years in some combination of House, Senate, Vice-President, and/or President and then you are out for life plus you have a lifetime ban on lobbying or peddling influence. No politician is ever going to deny themselves access to the gravy train, though.

I think, for a lot of reasons scattered around in other places, term limits are a pretty bad idea.
Lifetime lobbying ban and related is good, though. I'd like to go further and say no working in related industries [or no working for peeps/corps that get gov't contracts], and widen it, so no Major's and up going to work for Defense industries and such---but it would probably cause some problems, probably be hard to track and enforce, and probably be unconstitutional, so that's right out.

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