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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:39 pm    Post subject: loric's Krill Reply with quote

I kinda need some help understanding the uses of Loric's Krill. I always thought that the Krill was some sort of Catalyst for power; maybe the Krill latches itself to the most prominent power contained in the land. this would explain it's affinity for the white gold and it's latch onto Mhorams blue power when he learns the power of desecration... idk my ideas seem kind stupid.. anyone on here have any other ideas or knowledge? the krill has been on mind lately xD

sorry if this has been discussed already.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hesitate to say anything, cuz I might slip and say things that we don't find out until [or I might spew out speculations discussed relevant too] the second and/or third chronicles so would be spoiler territory here.

If you use the search function, you'll find lots of stuff [even if you only look at topic titles...]

Much discussion on it, cuz it has important roles in both the second and last [in fact new stuff about it is mentioned in the preview chapter of "Last Dark."]

I BELIEVE little is really revealed about what and how it works in the First Chron's except that:
1) It was supposed to be awakened by mastering Lore...and that awakening was the "call" to tell Amok the Lords were ready for the 7th Ward.
2) White Gold transcends it, wakes it untimely.
3) It's good for killing Viles.

The catalyst thing you mentioned is discussed in some of those other Chron's threads, as is much else concerning it.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like Vraith, I am constrained by not wanting to impart unearned knowledge...but read on, Poliwrath. The krill is all you suppose it to be and more. Consider the D. Sweet cover illustration of The Wounded Land. Clearly, this is a significant instrument.

Once you have read the Last Chrons, come discuss this in that forum.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the Krill was another object of power that twit Thomas could have used to reign ruin on Foul. but he was too busy moaning about...

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have read all the books to date butt I feel like iv forgotten most of the second and last chronicles. I think I might have posted his in the wrong section *woops*. Im almost done reading the first chronicles now so I will be continuing. If it is explained better in he last chronicles iv probably forgotten it at this point. but thanks for some of the input!


idk if this can be moved or whatever so yeah... my bad for posting It here
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sgt.null wrote:
the Krill was another object of power that twit Thomas could have used to reign ruin on Foul. but he was too busy moaning about...

Smile

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Yah, if he had only known that in TIW, he would have gone back into Elena's suite to retrieve it. That would have changed everything in the written future though.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, but could the krill have rained ruin on Foul? We know from The First Chronicles that it was effective as a weapon against Ravers in Demondim guise and Ravers in Giant guise. We know from The Second Chronicles that it was effective as a weapon against Cavewights and the Lurker, and could be used to channel power to alter the course of the Sunbane. However, Lord Foul himself is a different kind of adversary, and in both of the first two Chronicles Covenant used means other than outright weapons to defeat him.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got the impression that the krill was kind of a dagger that had the power to amplify Earthpower. It's been many years since I read the books though.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Donaldson speaks very little about the krill in the GI.

In the Gradual Interview was wrote:
Does the gem of the krill originate from a piece of the One Stone?
    Trees grow, mutate, have descendants. Rocks melt, fuse, get torn apart and recombined. I would hate to limit my narrative options by saying, "Yes, the gem of the krill is a piece of the One Stone [Rock, whatever: One of Something]." But surely it's fair to say that the krill's gem--and orcrest--are descended in some sense from the archetypal concept of *stone*. Like lomillialor, they express or exemplify ideas and powers larger than themselves.

    (03/12/2008)


In the Gradual Interview was wrote:
    However (he said ruefully), the name I most wish I could change is "krill". When I picked that name for Loric's dagger, I had no idea that it was a real word--or that its real meaning isn't even remotely useful for my intentions. <sigh>

    (01/11/2010)

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



all this time, that is what I envisioned they were using...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you know, Covenant did raise it up from the bottom of Glimmermere in TWL...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sgt.null wrote:


all this time, that is what I envisioned they were using...


ROFLMAO!!

I suppose it isn't any worse than when Monty Python used the Vorpal Bunny...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't seem to get my image to post. Sorry...

[url=skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=773832677F575173!2588&authkey=!ELpbSfPqZac%24]Loric's Krill[/url]
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should post whilst drunk more often...

The krill went snicker-snack!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

St. Null.. that krill has a problem

or not

But at the time it was a whale of a idea.

it's just some food for thought.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other than the one in the middle, can any one of these sword be used as a... sword?

(I always thought the Krill was more of a long dagger with little decoration)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:36 pm    Post subject: Re: loric's Krill Reply with quote

Rau Le Creuset wrote:
I always thought that the Krill was some sort of Catalyst for power; maybe the Krill latches itself to the most prominent power contained in the land. this would explain it's affinity for the white gold

... the krill has been on mind lately xD


What a pity this is seven years ago, it has been on my mind too.

Anyway, the Krill is like a double-edged symbol. To the people of the Land it is a great talisman of power, eventually to be used as a weapon against evil. To Thomas Covenant and the white gold the activated Krill represents the feeling of great love. This is an important point as Covenant's numbness was only ever skin deep.

To the reader the importance of this is paramount. If the Krill was intented to bridge the gap between the worlds - the dream world and a real world of the protagonist and author - then this could mean that the The Land is actually true. Though heavily veiled in magical symbolism!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it seems Loric's Krill is indeed a double-edged sword. Big Grin
Just finishing WGW so cannot remember/don't know or it's future uses so I cannot comment any more. Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

darthbuzz wrote:
Yes, it seems Loric's Krill is indeed a double-edged sword. Big Grin

Well it can be discouraging when reading back to see meaning inarticulated.
Therefore to reiterate, the activation of Loric's Krill shows us the light of love shining in the heart of Thomas Covenant.
As we are told, 'The Land' externalizes those abstract things like love and despite... etc, etc ... and why anyone would side with the shadow of despite
goes beyond belief.
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