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How do you pronounce "caesure" ?
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How do you pronounce "caesure" ?
KAY-sher
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KAY-zher
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SEE-sher
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SEE-zher
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SI-sher
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SI-zher
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KEE-sher
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kay-ZURE
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:41 pm    Post subject: How do you pronounce "caesure" ? Reply with quote

There's no wrong answer.

Personally, I favor a pronounciation that sounds like SI-sher, as if it was spelled "sisher", since this follows from the pronounciation of caesura, a real word.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are quite a few references - if I recall correctly - that mention its similarity to a migraine which could be loosley interpreted as a 'seizure'. Also it 'seizes' people in time... I could go on.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seizure. Though I don't actually pronounce the word 'seizure' with a 'z'.
From the spelling, this pronunciation just seemed logical.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seizure. That's how I read it...and that's how SRD pronounced it in the Q&A session Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm picking the first alternative, although I pronounce it "KAYshur", not sher. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Condign wrote:
There are quite a few references - if I recall correctly - that mention its similarity to a migraine which could be loosley interpreted as a 'seizure'. Also it 'seizes' people in time... I could go on.

Isn't it much more likely that it is related to "caesura", meaning break or interruption? Which is pronounced si-zyur-a or si-zhur-a.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite possibly, and even more possible is that it was probably derived from both. I am almost certain that the root latin word is the same anyway... I should look it up.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Donaldson's pronunciation should suffice.

Seizure.

Besides, when you think of how they were created, it's a perfect fit. I never thought of pronouncing it any other way.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually pronounce it say-sher. If there's a correct pronunciation (or a Donaldson-sanctioned one), I didn't know about it, and it's too late to care anyway, since I'm so used to pronouncing it my way.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess if SRD pronounces it a particular way that is the way it should be interpreted, has that way been heard from SRD, Burg66?

As for myself I read it a Kayzure which I'd be inclined is think is phonentically correct. Siezure would come from Cea... Kaysure from Cae..

The word Ceasar is 'see zar' the German Kaiser is 'ki zar', both are derivatives of each other (as of course is Tsar 'zar' from Russia).

Having said that you yanks do have a knack for changing the spelling and pronounciation of the "English" language! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pronounce it 'seizure' as it makes sense as to the nature of the Caesure.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the first moment I read that word my mind instantly pronounced it SAY-SURE. Right or wrong thats what I'm stuck with. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

finn wrote:
Siezure would come from Cea... Kaysure from Cae..

The word Ceasar is 'see zar' the German Kaiser is 'ki zar', both are derivatives of each other (as of course is Tsar 'zar' from Russia).

The word is actually spelt caesar, not ceasar.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless it's on a can of dog food for small, yappy-type dogs, then it's spelt Cesar.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because it was italicized, I though of it in Latin fashion as KI-shur-a or ki-SHUR-a, with a long I.

If SRD says it's seizure, I'll make the mental switch. He could have prevented all the confusion by spelling it seizure, but whatever.

Why does Stave butt into Linden's account of the caesure to announce that, "We name them Falls"? Not really the point, is it, Stave? But I assume that had some significance to something.

And why are they called Falls? Because you feel like you're falling if one hits you? But it's not like there are a lot of Falls survivors around, other than Anele (and he calls them caesures).
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And why are they called Falls?

Caesure is probably derived (like caesura) from Latin cadere, "to fall", via its participle, caesus.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

finn wrote:
I guess if SRD pronounces it a particular way that is the way it should be interpreted, has that way been heard from SRD, Burg66?

It has, at the Q&A session in Manchester. A few weeks back. Nav, Gart and I can vouch for that.

I voted for the way I pronounced it before I heard SRD say it: Sysher
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From the first moment I read that word my mind instantly pronounced it SAY-SURE. Right or wrong thats what I'm stuck with. Very Happy


Oh yeah, another supporter of "say-sure!" Bounce Of course, we're both rocking musicians, as well, so it only makes sense! Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy on the "Book on CD" pronounces it: se-ZHUR. Kinda French-like.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see the "ae" dipthong and give it the latin pronunciation...without even thinking...ah, the joy of being well trained...
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